Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 09:10:42 04/12/02
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On April 12, 2002 at 09:45:30, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 12, 2002 at 08:50:18, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On April 12, 2002 at 00:38:00, Dana Turnmire wrote: >> >>>On April 12, 2002 at 00:04:48, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On April 11, 2002 at 22:53:23, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 11, 2002 at 21:28:52, pavel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 11, 2002 at 20:55:15, Joe Little wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.clubkasparov.com/serve/templates/folders/show.asp?p_docID=20935&p_docLang=EN >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks fot the link, nice reading. >>>>>>Now whom to believe, a strong player who is new in computerchess arena, or a >>>>>>stronger played, who has been there done that? >>>>>> >>>>>>I feel too with Kasparov that Fritz7 is strong, but it is way overhyped. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>pavs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Agreed, and it's been discussed here at some length. >>>>> >>>>>Too bad IBM wouldn't post the "Technical Specifications" of Deep Blue of 97! >>>>> >>>>>It would be like comparing a Tandy/TRS-80 in complexity to what Kramnik will >>>>>play Fritz 7 on. >>>>> >>>>>It gives a new meaning to "Virtual Reality" IMO. >>>>> >>>>>Terry >>>> >>>>It dosen't read exactly the way I intended! >>>> >>>>Comparing an 8-way Box to the _super power_ of Deeper Blue is as silly as >>>>comparing an a Tandy/TRS-80 to a very powerful, modern 8-way Box. >>> >>>Wouldn't a very fast stupid program be at a disadvantage to a much newer and >>>smarter one? From what I have read Deep Blue wasn't that sophisticated when it >>>came to forward pruning and general chess knowledge. >> >>Deeper Blue was _anything_ but a stupid programme, I see you really haven't any >>hard data on the whole Deep Blue project, which goes all the way back to >>Chiptest, which evoloved into Deep Thought, which became the "Manhatten Project" >>of chess playing machines. Deeper Blue was "smarter" than Fritz. >> >>Terry > >I guess that we will never agree about it. > >Do you say it based on analyzing the games kasparov-deeper blue with >Fritz or based on looking on the logfiles? > > >I read these claims but they did not convince me. > >I also doubt if deeper blue really searched 200M >nodes per second. >Maybe this claim was done as a pshychological >war against kasparov and the thing searched >only 20M nodes per second. > >I do not say that it is the case(I do not know) but IBM lost >credibility after they decided not to play with >deeper blue again and I do not assume as obvious every positive >claim that I read about deeper blue. > >Uri Actually URI, I doubt you really exist!:o) Terry
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