Author: Don Dailey
Date: 08:03:24 07/18/98
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On July 17, 1998 at 23:57:26, Mark Young wrote: >On July 17, 1998 at 20:27:55, Don Dailey wrote: > >>On July 17, 1998 at 19:48:20, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On July 16, 1998 at 22:21:28, Joe McCarron wrote: >>> >>>>On July 15, 1998 at 11:27:58, blass uri wrote: >>>> >>>>>do computer programs play in correspondence chess against humans >>>>>and if yes I have 2 questions: >>>>>1)what is the international rating? >>>>>2)do their opponents know they play against a computer? >>>>> >>>>>I am sure computers have no chance against good players >>>>>but they are many correspondence players who do not use a computer >>>>>because they feel it is unethical. >>>>> >>>>>I know that in many correspondence games >>>>>weak players do tactical mistakes because they do not use a computer. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>>I once read that humans have the best chance against computers at roughly over >>>>the board tournament time controls. But I would also be interested in finding >>>>out how computers do in coorespondance as I would also think humans do better. >>> >>> >>>Computers get crushed pretty badly playing strong players at correspondence >>>chess. If I remember right IM Mike Valvo played (DT) in a 2 game match at >>>correspondece chess. Mike crushed it even though DT was thinking many hours per >>>move, and hitting 30 plies in its search. I remember reading how shocked the >>>programmers were at how badly the program lost. Even if Deep Blue was playing I >>>think the results would have been the same. This shows how much more room there >>>is left to improve programs. >> >>This illustrates why I think not only computers but humans have a >>long way to go, or why they have a lot of improvement left. I think >>correspondence is a whole new level of chess, something of much >>greater quality than 40/2. I would be willing to bet that there are >>several hundred points of improvement left before you could say it's >>not possible to play any better. >> >> >>- Don > >Don do you remember this match? I have not been able to find the games. If you >have the games please post them. I can not find them. Im pretty sure it was IM >Mike valvo who played DT. It was Mike. I remember him showing us one of the games at one of the computer chess tournaments. But I do not know where to find the games. If you are interested just ask Mike for them. It's probably not hard to find his email address and probably some folks on the group have it. - Don
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