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Subject: Re: Anti-GM - Is the Original Rebel Example Sound?

Author: fca

Date: 20:46:39 07/21/98

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On July 20, 1998 at 02:43:58, Howard Exner wrote:

>On July 19, 1998 at 22:21:44, fca wrote:
>
>>On July 19, 1998 at 19:19:55, Howard Exner wrote:
>>
>>>On July 19, 1998 at 15:41:03, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On July 18, 1998 at 20:28:44, Howard Exner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 18, 1998 at 03:52:14, blass uri wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On July 17, 1998 at 14:02:14, Howard Exner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm getting in this position:
>>>>>>>1. Rxe6 fxe6 2. Bh6 a6 3. Bxa6 Qc7 4. Nxe6 Qc6 5. Bxb7 Qxb7 6. Re1 Qc6
>>>>>>>7. Qf3 Ne5 8. Ng7+ Kd8 9. Qe4 Bf6 10. Nc5
>>>>>>
>>>>>>after 7.Qf3 my programs play N7f6
>>
>>Dear Howard
>>
>>White has a couple of resources apparently not mentioned in the threads...
>>perhaps because (correctly) their refutations had been found.  But it all gets
>>very long... So....
>>
>>If it is still your opinion that 1 Rxe6 does not lose...  :-)
>>
>>Either:
>>
>>1.  Let us play it here by pseudo-email.  No take-backs, No "if"s  :-)
>>2.  Or by real email, but that leaves others out
>>3.  On ICC - I will give most replies instantly, as I have now concluded my
>>studies of the position.  ( Summary 1. Rxe6?? -+ ).
>
>or 4. You join Uri and I in the thread here.

Will do, as time permits :-)

A question: since no comp (R10?) will AFAIK play 2 Bh6, should it be used in the
example to try to justify 1. Rxe6?

This is no different than
>what my friends and I do at the local chess club. We discuss a position,
>have differing opinions, analyse. Anyone can jump in at any time to
>express there ideas on the position. Likewise here of course in this
>public forum. Actually, if you've followed this thread you would have
>read a few days ago that I wrote, "fca, what are you finding here?"

I read it, but did not have my cc with me then (only a laptop).

>
>I don't really know if white will lose this position yet or not. If
>you know for sure just show Uri and me what we are missing
>and post what you've discovered here.
>
>If you've missed the recent threads here  a quick summary is that I don't really
>trust how computers evaluate positions that invole the king stranded in the
>middle. Check the recently posted Valvo-Deep Thought game and see how "happy"
>your programs are when Black (Valvo) plays Ba6.

Will do.

Kind regards

fca



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