Author: Howard Exner
Date: 21:24:51 07/21/98
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On July 21, 1998 at 23:46:39, fca wrote: >On July 20, 1998 at 02:43:58, Howard Exner wrote: > >>On July 19, 1998 at 22:21:44, fca wrote: >> >>>On July 19, 1998 at 19:19:55, Howard Exner wrote: >>> >>>>On July 19, 1998 at 15:41:03, blass uri wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>On July 18, 1998 at 20:28:44, Howard Exner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On July 18, 1998 at 03:52:14, blass uri wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On July 17, 1998 at 14:02:14, Howard Exner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Here's what I'm getting in this position: >>>>>>>>1. Rxe6 fxe6 2. Bh6 a6 3. Bxa6 Qc7 4. Nxe6 Qc6 5. Bxb7 Qxb7 6. Re1 Qc6 >>>>>>>>7. Qf3 Ne5 8. Ng7+ Kd8 9. Qe4 Bf6 10. Nc5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>after 7.Qf3 my programs play N7f6 >>> >>>Dear Howard >>> >>>White has a couple of resources apparently not mentioned in the threads... >>>perhaps because (correctly) their refutations had been found. But it all gets >>>very long... So.... >>> >>>If it is still your opinion that 1 Rxe6 does not lose... :-) >>> >>>Either: >>> >>>1. Let us play it here by pseudo-email. No take-backs, No "if"s :-) >>>2. Or by real email, but that leaves others out >>>3. On ICC - I will give most replies instantly, as I have now concluded my >>>studies of the position. ( Summary 1. Rxe6?? -+ ). >> >>or 4. You join Uri and I in the thread here. > >Will do, as time permits :-) > >A question: since no comp (R10?) will AFAIK play 2 Bh6, should it be used in the >example to try to justify 1. Rxe6? That would be a good reason to not use this position. Now you've got me laughing because of the analysis I did with Uri was really our own fun diversion. I was just following a gut feeling that Rxe6 while maybe not the best, shouldn't lose either. As I got deeper into the position I began thinking, "this is way over my head". Anyway, if you or someone else has an absolute winning line for black I'd be ready to go another round. But it is a heavy investment of time given that it is so complex and that your original point seems valid based on Bh6 not being followed through anyway. > >This is no different than >>what my friends and I do at the local chess club. We discuss a position, >>have differing opinions, analyse. Anyone can jump in at any time to >>express there ideas on the position. Likewise here of course in this >>public forum. Actually, if you've followed this thread you would have >>read a few days ago that I wrote, "fca, what are you finding here?" > >I read it, but did not have my cc with me then (only a laptop). > >> >>I don't really know if white will lose this position yet or not. If >>you know for sure just show Uri and me what we are missing >>and post what you've discovered here. >> >>If you've missed the recent threads here a quick summary is that I don't really >>trust how computers evaluate positions that invole the king stranded in the >>middle. Check the recently posted Valvo-Deep Thought game and see how "happy" >>your programs are when Black (Valvo) plays Ba6. > >Will do. > >Kind regards > >fca
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