Author: Mark Young
Date: 07:00:24 07/22/98
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On July 22, 1998 at 09:25:29, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On July 22, 1998 at 03:58:48, Mark Young wrote: >>Thorsten's logic about Fritz 5 has never made much sense. He has some kind of >>bias against Fritz 5, So when he talks about it he does not remember all the >>results the prove his point moot. Now how he can take Rebel's results and turn >>it around to show how bad and stupid Fritz 5 is at playing chess escapes me. >Nonsense.When I say something i do have prove ! >I telephoned with Moritz, and he told me that Rebel10 kills fritz5 in blitz ! >This was original coming from MORITZ himself. >Of course Moritz will never openly say something like this in public, guess why >? > So what if Rebel 10 kills Fritz 5 in Blitz. I find junior 4.6 better then Fritz 5 at blitz also in head to head matches. Who said the Fritz 5 was the best blitz program. The SSDF rating is for slow chess. > >So - he told me that rebel10 kills fritz in blitz. >That fits to the results. doesn't it. >Concentrate on facts uri ! >Don't repeat your prejudices. They get boring with the time. >Ask somebody who has rebel10, and you will be informed ! >If data is something that convinces you... The problem I have is you can not say that Fritz 5 is a stupid or dumb program because Rebel 10 beats it. That is not what that shows. You can not cancel out Fritz 5 other results with other people and programs because Rebel 10 beats it. What the data tells me is that rebel 10 is just better then Fritz 5. At least a blitz time controls. If you are accurate in your facts. >>But >>the fact that he tries proves his bias. > >Pah ! >Rebel plays better chess. This has nothing to do with BIAS or whatever you want >to construct. > Yes it does, because you try to use the data you have to show that fritz 5 is dumb. The rebel 10 data can not cancel out the other results that fritz 5 has. But like I said you could argue that Rebel 10 is better at least at blitz time controls right now. I do not have one problem with that. If rebel 10 is just a better program then so be it, if that what the data shows. If Rebel 11 comes out and it beats Rebel 10 does that prove that Rebel 10 was a weak and stupid program. I would think not. All it tells me is the Rebel 11 is better. > >>Now if he want to try and argue that >>Rebel 10 may be better, then that's a point he could try to argue. > >Rebel10 is better. And i only hope that the ssdf-guys will never be allowed to >publish this. As far as I know they get the request to delete all rebel versions >from their list.
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