Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:41:46 04/29/02
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On April 29, 2002 at 19:35:26, James T. Walker wrote: >On April 29, 2002 at 18:17:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 29, 2002 at 17:11:21, martin fierz wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2002 at 13:46:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 29, 2002 at 13:01:24, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>>> >>>>>Please see: >>>>> >>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?226863 >>>>> >>>>>w.b.r. >>>>>Otello >>>> >>>> >>>>What does that have to do with the point I made? Smirin was _winning_ in >>>>the first three games. He won one and drew the other two due to making >>>>mistakes, most likely caused by time pressure in the fairly short time >>>>control used... >>>> >>>>He should have lost against Junior. That would have been three wins, then >>>>a loss and then a draw and another win against tiger, out of six games... >>>> >>>>Smirin was lucky to get to play Junior again rather than losing. But then >>>>he was very unlucky to lose two won games and having to settle for draws due >>>>to time problems. >>>> >>>>He is still less "lucky" than the programs, in that regard... >>> >>>to be fair, the tiger should probably have won the last game instead of lost it >>>(with Bc5 instead of Bc3). smirin should have won games 2 and 3. in this >>>respect, i think the "luck" is evenly distributed. the junior game will be >>>repeated, so there is no point in talking about who is lucky there (smirin >>>because he didnt lose a lost position or junior because it gets to repeat a game >>>which would be lost by normal computer chess standards - if your program won't >>>play on, too bad). >>> >>>aloha >>> martin >> >> >>first, I am not convinced that Bc5 wins and Bc3 loses. >> >>Second, until talking with Smirin and hearing his comments, it might be >>that he simply thought he was winning all the way and the computer simply >>didn't understand. >> >>It is speculation at the moment... who knows what he _really_ was thinking >>about? > >Didn't Smirin offer to resign the game? If so that says something about the >position. I think he said something about Bc5 g6 if so I believe he is lost. >I'm not sure about why Junior was "lost" and couldn't find the move or move >period or whatever. In any case the game is null and will be replaced by the >game Wednesday. So good luck to Smirin. I have a lot of respect for him after >his behavior/performance in this match. Quite different from another GM that >stole a game from Junior. >Jim Wrong game. You are thinking of smirin vs junior. We are talking about smirin vs gambit tiger now...
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