Author: James T. Walker
Date: 16:35:26 04/29/02
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On April 29, 2002 at 18:17:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 29, 2002 at 17:11:21, martin fierz wrote: > >>On April 29, 2002 at 13:46:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2002 at 13:01:24, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>> >>>>Please see: >>>> >>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?226863 >>>> >>>>w.b.r. >>>>Otello >>> >>> >>>What does that have to do with the point I made? Smirin was _winning_ in >>>the first three games. He won one and drew the other two due to making >>>mistakes, most likely caused by time pressure in the fairly short time >>>control used... >>> >>>He should have lost against Junior. That would have been three wins, then >>>a loss and then a draw and another win against tiger, out of six games... >>> >>>Smirin was lucky to get to play Junior again rather than losing. But then >>>he was very unlucky to lose two won games and having to settle for draws due >>>to time problems. >>> >>>He is still less "lucky" than the programs, in that regard... >> >>to be fair, the tiger should probably have won the last game instead of lost it >>(with Bc5 instead of Bc3). smirin should have won games 2 and 3. in this >>respect, i think the "luck" is evenly distributed. the junior game will be >>repeated, so there is no point in talking about who is lucky there (smirin >>because he didnt lose a lost position or junior because it gets to repeat a game >>which would be lost by normal computer chess standards - if your program won't >>play on, too bad). >> >>aloha >> martin > > >first, I am not convinced that Bc5 wins and Bc3 loses. > >Second, until talking with Smirin and hearing his comments, it might be >that he simply thought he was winning all the way and the computer simply >didn't understand. > >It is speculation at the moment... who knows what he _really_ was thinking >about? Didn't Smirin offer to resign the game? If so that says something about the position. I think he said something about Bc5 g6 if so I believe he is lost. I'm not sure about why Junior was "lost" and couldn't find the move or move period or whatever. In any case the game is null and will be replaced by the game Wednesday. So good luck to Smirin. I have a lot of respect for him after his behavior/performance in this match. Quite different from another GM that stole a game from Junior. Jim
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