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Subject: Re: Smirin match conclusion?! - neither side was "lucky"

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:17:36 04/29/02

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On April 29, 2002 at 17:11:21, martin fierz wrote:

>On April 29, 2002 at 13:46:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 29, 2002 at 13:01:24, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>Please see:
>>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?226863
>>>
>>>w.b.r.
>>>Otello
>>
>>
>>What does that have to do with the point I made?  Smirin was _winning_ in
>>the first three games.  He won one and drew the other two due to making
>>mistakes, most likely caused by time pressure in the fairly short time
>>control used...
>>
>>He should have lost against Junior.  That would have been three wins, then
>>a loss and then a draw and another win against tiger, out of six games...
>>
>>Smirin was lucky to get to play Junior again rather than losing.  But then
>>he was very unlucky to lose two won games and having to settle for draws due
>>to time problems.
>>
>>He is still less "lucky" than the programs, in that regard...
>
>to be fair, the tiger should probably have won the last game instead of lost it
>(with Bc5 instead of Bc3). smirin should have won games 2 and 3. in this
>respect, i think the "luck" is evenly distributed. the junior game will be
>repeated, so there is no point in talking about who is lucky there (smirin
>because he didnt lose a lost position or junior because it gets to repeat a game
>which would be lost by normal computer chess standards - if your program won't
>play on, too bad).
>
>aloha
>  martin


first, I am not convinced that Bc5 wins and Bc3 loses.

Second, until talking with Smirin and hearing his comments, it might be
that he simply thought he was winning all the way and the computer simply
didn't understand.

It is speculation at the moment...  who knows what he _really_ was thinking
about?



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