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Subject: Re: Company politics - intel c++ for computerchess sucks at K7

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 23:43:53 05/08/02

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On May 09, 2002 at 02:07:25, Slater Wold wrote:

in short if that 2Ghz thing comes out from AMd (and first 0.13
are already getting tested here and there in reviews) then
it's faster than a 3.5Ghz P4 (add a bit more than 70%).

3.5Ghz is way further away from 2.53Ghz than 2Ghz is from 1.73Ghz
obviously.

P4 northwood already is 0.13 let's not forget it. K7 isn't yet
and already clocked to 1.73Ghz :)

whatever math i do. at pc processors AMD is completely annihilating intel,
if you consider the market share AMD had and is going to have.

>On May 08, 2002 at 23:54:50, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>Sometimes i hate company politics. A superb compiler intel c++
>>they weakened it for K7. Where 5.0.1 compiler was pretty fast
>>for the superb K7 processors, the 6.0 compiler is deliberatly
>>doing bad for K7.
>>
>>intel c++ 6.0 linux KDE3 MP 1.4Ghz run single cpu
>>is 2.4% slower than msvc 6.0 sp4+processorpack.
>>
>>Please take into account this is WITH profile information.
>>msvc is already faster without taking advantage of that.
>>
>>God, sometimes i hate company politics.
>>
>>Last so many years msvc did shit litterary regarding to improve
>>compiler (at least released nearly nothing). In total from
>>4.5 to 6.0 sp4 procpack it got faster 3% from which the processor
>>pack is 2%.
>>
>>Intel c++ which is taking use of all kind of new tricks is
>>actually 8.5% faster on a P3, but 2.4% slower on a K7.
>>
>>Sometimes you can dominate because others make major blunders...
>>...of course intel doesn't sell many compiler versions, so
>>i understand the math. but sometimes i just hate company politics.
>>couldn't they make it *equally* fast to the msvc compiler for example?
>
>I am not so sure it's company politics.  I think it's business.
>
>Here you are, distributing a compiler that makes your #1 compeition CPUs FASTER.
> Your CPUs are already a bit slower, and now you're just going to make that gap
>larger?
>
>I seriously doubt AMD is going to do anything.  With all their new CPUs coming
>out, and trying to break the 2.0Ghz mark, they have their hands full.  AMD might
>be the current "king" of CPUs, but Intels got the money.  And they have plenty
>of it.



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