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Subject: Re: 10. .. Qc8! a strong novelty?

Author: Komputer Korner

Date: 04:19:06 07/29/98

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On July 26, 1998 at 12:36:17, Jeroen Noomen wrote:

>On July 26, 1998 at 06:58:33, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On July 25, 1998 at 02:35:05, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:
>>
>>>On July 24, 1998 at 20:20:07, Mark Young wrote:
>
>
>As I operated the game and talked with Vishy about this position
>after the game, the following should be of interest:
>
>1. Anand played 10 ... Qc8 almost without thinking;
>2. After the game he said that he liked the idea of Bb5, Bxd7+
>   and Ne5. In Vishy's opinion White's idea was very good.
>
>I must confess that I wasn't sure about 11 Bb5 either, but if
>Anand says its strong, who am I to contradict!
>
>The reason 11 d5 is not in the book is very simple: I didnot
>use a powerbook and this line hasn't been updated for a while.
>To me Anand's Queen's Indian came as a bit of a surprise, during
>the game I preferred 4. g3 instead of 4. a3.
>
>Still, the only one knowing what REALLY happens after 10 ... Qc8
>11 d5 is Anand, otherwise he would never have entered this line
>and play 10 ... Qc8 a tempo.
>
>Regards, Jeroen
>
>
>>>>You must be right. I can't see Anand playing Qc8 if d5 is so strong. I let fritz
>>>>5 play out a game after 10 .. Qc8 11 d5, Fritz thought d5 was crushing but I
>>>>sure GM Anand must know something that Fritz 5 is just missing. Or why else
>>>>play it.
>>>
>>>"DarkThought" suggests 11.. c4 for Black after 11. d5 by White.
>>>
>>>=Ernst=
>>
>>
>>What's wrong with taking the pawn ? It looks like black can keep it.
>>
>>In the two games quoted from the database, in one black refused to take the
>>pawn, which proves nothing. In the other (quoted below), black took the pawn but
>>then played weakly to lose in two moves (13...Qb7? How about 13...Qc6), which
>>also proves nothing.
>>
>>Is there another game where black took the pawn and lost ?
>>
>>Amir
>>
>>
>>
>>>>[Event "we cup"]
>>>>[Site "cr"]
>>>>[Date "1989.??.??"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "Pyrich"]
>>>>[Black "Pampa"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "E12"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Bb7 5. Nc3 d5 6. cxd5 Nxd5 7. Qc2 c5 8. e4
>>>>Nxc3 9. bxc3 Nd7 10. Bf4 Qc8 11. d5 exd5 12. exd5 Bxd5 13. 0-0-0 Qb7 14. Bb5
>>>>0-0-0 15. Rxd5 1-0
>>>>


Jeroen, you need Knut Neven's GIGANTIC BASE of 1.3 million games with less than
4/10 ths of 1 % doubles. It has 3 games of 11.d5  It is hellishly complicated
but 11.d5 looks very good for white. It seems as if Anand did not properly
prepare for Rebel 10. Super GM's still do not have the proper respectfor micros!
Congratulations on an excellent result. In the future let us see all the games
at 40/2!!!!!!!! That will be the real test.
--
Komputer Korner



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