Author: Harald Faber
Date: 23:56:03 05/30/02
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On May 30, 2002 at 16:16:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 30, 2002 at 14:32:25, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On May 30, 2002 at 09:04:40, Mike S. wrote: >> >>>On May 30, 2002 at 08:25:40, Harald Faber wrote: >>> >>>>(...) >>>>To ignore that there are endgames with mate or catching pieces in >50 moves >>>>makes FIDE also out of real life like the Catholic Church and the Pope >>>>(although they do not have much in common with chess). >>> >>>I think FIDE doesn't ignore (as there were exceptions, temporarily), but has >>>decided so on purpose: It is a matter of definition. What is a *won game* (with >>>emphasis on "game"), and when should it be declared as drawn (i.e. because of >>>too long maneuvring, where nothing "substantial" happens)? >> >> >>This should be easily answered! >> >> >>>There are two things, which are not necessarily the same: >>> >>>(1) The (theoretical and technical) possibility to force a mate, no matter how >>>long it takes against best defense, and >>> >>>(2) to include that into the definition of a won game by the rules, even if it >>>needs more than 50 moves without pawn move or capture. >> >> >>So what?? If positions cannot be won under 50+ moves then it is draw?? What kind >>of nonsense is that?? > >How long do you let the game go on? Overnight? What about the start of the >_next_ round? Do the players get a rest break? If you adjudicate, do you >adjudicate based on the tables, or based on human playing skill? > >Too many issues. Too much room for dispute and interpretation. > >Chess (and FIDE) listened to the _players_. They (FIDE) first started >enumerating exceptions. Then the GM players started saying "wait a minute, >these games can go on for hours just because one side can 'theoretically' >win... and then we lose the next round because we are burned out. Stop >the nonsense. Stop the exceptions." > >And FIDE listened and did... > >It _was_ the FIDE membership that demanded the exceptions be dropped. It >wasn't a political decision. Then what about different rules for computer chess?
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