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Subject: Re: Normal distribution no way for machines of diff. generations QED

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:43:21 06/06/02

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On June 06, 2002 at 15:31:08, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On June 06, 2002 at 14:25:43, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2002 at 09:10:16, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On June 05, 2002 at 00:05:34, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>Since they are different hardware setups or different program versions,
>>>>they are treated as different organisms.
>>>
>>>Now we can make a few conclusions. Here is one of the most important. We have a
>>>principal difference between human chessplayers and machines. Next. We have a
>>>principal difference between the generations of chess machines.
>>>
>>>I could already stop here, because from the above it is crystal clear that Dann
>>>Corbit's explanations are a vain attempt. Because normal distribution is for
>>>different individuals of the same organisms or "race". But - the different
>>>generations of chess machines are different organisms. Completely new "limbs" or
>>>"heads" are existing in newer generations. Hence you can't put them into the
>>>same population for a normal distribution. Chess strength in human chessplayers
>>>however is differentiated by degrees of strength between the weakest players to
>>>the best. But there is no principal difference as far as the organism is
>>>concerned. Period. Thank you.
>>
>>When someone takes measurements of bunnies in a field or crocodiles in a river
>>or bears in the woods, they are talking about different organisms.
>>
>>I am afraid that mathematics and statistics are not your strong suit.
>>
>>You don't understand the math, the background, the methodology.  Quite frankly,
>>you have no idea what you are talking about.
>
>Well, I won't debate about such ad hominems. If you think that you could vary
>the different machines on different hardware and with completely different
>"parts" like "learning" yes or no, and still get a reasonable normal
>distribution for strength resp. performance, then fine, do what you must do, you
>have the right to talk about my knowledge in whatever style you prefer, and that
>is what makes the debate with you so interesting and 'telling' BTW.

I have said nothing about you.  I have described your lack of understanding
about statistics.  There is nothing wrong with being ignorant about something.
Will Rogers said it best:
"Everyone is ignorant.  Only in different areas."

An Ad-hominem attack is an attack against the person and (more specifically)
against their character.  I have made no such attack.



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