Author: Russell Reagan
Date: 12:43:15 07/19/02
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On July 19, 2002 at 15:29:04, pavel wrote: >I ussually see that you don't show a little bit of respect for most of the >old-timers in this forum. I don't give respect based on what someone has done for computer chess. That's not how respect is earned. I respect Bob because I think he's a good guy, not because he has contributed to computer chess. I respect Bruce because he is always level headed (this is another perfect example), and not because he has produced a strong engine in Ferret or because he has provided very good resources for learning about computer chess on his website. Apart from seeing Mogens' name on the top of the Winboard Forum, I have no idea who he is, so I have no opinion of him except based upon what I read from him. When (in my mind) Kevin seemed like he was the good guy and Mogens was calling him on his bluff, it seemed rather bullyish, and since that's about the extent of my dealings with him, my opinion of him wasn't very high. Do you respect Bobby Fischer? I don't. He's done more for chess in America than any other player ever, and he's right up there in terms of improving chess worldwide, getting higher prizes and such. That doesn't mean I have respect for him, because those things aren't what draws respect out of people. I used to not respect Kasparov because he didn't seem to be doing anything to make chess better all around, but rather promoting himself. Lately, while he may not be entirely the generous man, he's at least making an effort to put the chess community before himself, and so I have more respect for him. All of that is completely independent from anything he has done over a chess board. >If I am not wrong, you are somewhat new in this forum, it wouldn't hurt too >much, if you would do a little research about someone, before accusing them >(Andrew and Mogens), of something rather stupid. > >If you take out the "them-being-european" thingie out of your mind, than >everything makes good sense. That's how it seemed at the time. Hate mail from Europeans, Europeans kicking the North American while he was down. Obviously I was blind to what was really going on, and they weren't as gullable as I, but that's how I saw it at the time. Like the Euros wanted to snuff out any chance of there being a tournament outside of Europe. Looking back on it, yes, it's a little "out there". As far as doing research about someone before I call them on something, I don't think it makes a difference. If a new guy says something stupid or an old timer says something stupid, it doesn't make much difference to me. If a guy has increased interest in computer chess by 1000% and he beats his wife, I have no respect for him (I'm not implying anyone beats their wife, just making an example). Russell
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