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Subject: Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 12:02:32 08/20/02

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On August 20, 2002 at 14:37:10, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On August 20, 2002 at 11:15:37, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>True, so you also want to give masters to all the fans of football or basket
>>ball that knows _tons_ of stuff about that?
>
>I have heard Universities discuss creating degrees (bachelor degrees) in various
>sports. If someone can do a master's or PhD thesis related to chess, then there
>is no reason they couldn't do it on a sport. There are a great deal of strategy
>and tactical ideas in sports, just like there are in board games. I fail to see
>why you think this is such a laughable idea.
>
>Person A is a genius in programming and chess. This person does his required
>work, and recieves his master's and/or PhD.
>
>Person B is a genius in his sport. This person does the required work. If a
>university offers a degree in this sport, why shouldn't he recieve a master's or
>PhD? Just as there have been new ideas in computer chess and chess such as
>alpha-beta, null-move, etc. and revolutions of opening ideas in chess, the art
>of attacking, endgame play, and so on, there have been new ideas and schools of
>thought in sports as well. This sounds to me like a very intellectual subject.
>
>Also, I disagree that being a genius at one's sport is all physical. You can
>look at some of the best players in various sports throughout history, and not
>all of them were daunting physical specimens. Sure, some players have zero
>mental game and dominate due to their physical abilities, but even in a physical
>competition, there is a great amount of strategic and tactical thinking
>involved. I don't see why someone can't earn a master's degree in "basketball
>theory" or "basketball science" or whatever. Maybe it's just me though :)

I would say that is stretching it too far: "there is a great amount of strategic
and tactical thinking involved", but even so then you have to write it down on
paper and do some research to show that it works, not enough to just have a bit
of fun in the ballpark ;)

You _can_ get a master in athletics, but you don't have to be good at sports,
however you need to know alot of theory, how the body works, why does it get
tired, how do you train it, biorythms etc. That is of course different.

Lot's of people know lots of things about some areas, to get the master you
write a thesis, with some original input.

-S.

>Russell



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