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Subject: Re: Chess Programmers -- take note: M. N. J. van Kervinck's Master's Thesis

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 10:38:13 08/22/02

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On August 21, 2002 at 18:55:53, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On August 21, 2002 at 15:06:32, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>>I don't think it's comparable to the one in physics, it's IIRC just a "minor"
>>>project, like 1/4 to 1/2 year.
>>
>>If you want to boost the reputation of your physics department, that's okay, but
>>irrelevant.
>
>It was only a matter of time before you said that, not true of course.
>
>>In general a thesis lasts 1/2 year.
>
>Correcting you is getting rather tiresome, for the last time:
>
>Masters in:
>Astronomy - 1 year (60 ETCS points)
>Biophysics - 1 year (60 ETCS points)
>Biochemistry - 1 year (60 ETCS points)
>Biology - 1 year (60 ETCS points)
>Computer Science  - 1/2 to 1 year (30 or 60 ETCS points)
>Geophysics - 1 year (60 ETCS points)
>etc.....
>
>These are facts, so it's not really open for debate although you seem to think
>so, this is how it's done in KU - perhaps things are different elsewhere, but
>not here.
>
>http://www.sis.ku.dk/SHB/SHBIndhold.asp?Vnr=83&Sprog=DK&InFrame=0
>(and please read it this time;)
>
>>A somewhat recent requirement to
>>make sure that more students finished earlier, ie. within 5 years instead of 6,
>>7 or more. However, the universities have tried to circumvent that
>>recommendation. Especially in natural science disciplines, including
>>mathematics. In Aalborg, of which I'm familiar, you do a prelimenary theoretical
>>thesis to support your eventual master thesis. So in reality it takes a year. I
>>suspect it takes even longer at Ã…rhus. Physics is far from unique in that
>>respect. All that is educational politics and completely irrelevant.
>>
>>>Boy, you haven't been paying much attention then, it was the _standard_ I found
>>>a bit low for a masters thesis.
>>
>>I responded to your incorrect claim about the meaning of a master thesis, ie.
>>the requirement of original science, which is apparent by tracing the thread
>>backwards. I don't care about the standard, because it's none of my business. So
>>much for the good old "I was discussing something else" excuse ;-).
>
>My claim was never shown to be incorrect. *sigh*
>You believed that doing a 'theoretical' study could be done by 'compendium
>research', I told you it couldn't and that it had to be _original_ to some
>extent.
>We can't decide who is right unless we phone a decan or something, however I
>know the professors here better than you, and I know the work my fellow students
>do, and I am telling you I have never heard of anyone not doing original
>research in their masters, you simply cannot find a supervisor to support you in
>such a project.

Of course this says zilch about Denmark, you might find interesting what is
permissible in the US for a Master's thesis:

http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?246732

                                      Albert

>
>-S.
>
>>Regards,
>>Mogens



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