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Subject: Re: Deep Blue - The Conclusion of the Matter

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 15:37:11 08/22/02

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On August 22, 2002 at 18:19:17, Keith Ian Price wrote:

>On August 22, 2002 at 10:04:37, Peter Hegger wrote:
>
>>On August 22, 2002 at 08:10:27, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>
>>>2.  Hsu's creations _slaughtered_ the computer competition...ALL OF THEM!
>>
>>They did? Where are the game scores? I know that they claimed to have scored
>>around 90% against other programs during testing, but no game scores exist for
>>these games.
>>Are we to simply take their word for it that these games actually happened?
>
><snip>
>
>>Regards,
>>Peter
>
>I talked to Hsu and asked him specifically about this. He said he did not save
>the game scores. I listened to his answer while looking him in the eye and I
>believed him. What do you base your assertion that he is lying on? I am inclined
>to take a person's word without the personal interview, but in this case I had
>that added benefit. I don't really care if DB would beat today's programs or
>not, since it does not exist any longer, but I do not like people calling Hsu a
>liar with no evidence. If you have some, please post it.
>
>kp


You are right, such _name calling_ is wrong. But let me give you a very basic
fact. In science it is a fundamental technique to keep exact documentation.
Simply because without you have no evidence to publish. Now, we know that Feng
Hsu is a scientist. Hence, it's allowed to ask why he didn't keep the game
scores. I would say that the question is at least as valuable as your eye into
eye contact. BTW what did you observe concretely? No need to answer, I wanted to
lead the attention to the value of such evidence. I'm no way doubting your
experience. But in science we do not follow such evidence - in general. NB this
is independent of the status of the persons involved.

Rolf Tueschen



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