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Subject: Re: OFF_TOPIC: statistics, 10 events tell us what ?

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 01:11:56 08/16/98

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On August 15, 1998 at 21:54:12, blass uri wrote:

>>(cstal was so used to me, even a few moves were enough to tell precise enough)
>>which versions are stronger and which are weaker.
>
>I think 1 version can be stronger in 1 kind of positions and the other  version
>can be stronger in another kind of positions so you cannot be sure by 1 game
>which version is stronger.

Look into my sentence above:
i was referring to cstal and with the info that i was used to it.
I was not claiming that this works for any program without beeing used to it.

>If one version is a better in tactical positions and the other is better in
>quiet
>positions how can you say which one is better by 1 game?

this is possible.
It took me not much time to find out that

e.g. chesstiger 11.4 is weaker in games than 11.2.

Although tiger 11.4 is better in test-suites.

You don't even have to play games to find out...

just watch how the main-line develops in a position you know very good, and you
know much.

It was clear to me when 11.5 arrived, that THIS version plays again as good as
11.2, because the main-lines and the score-development was nearly the same way
as version 11.2.

Uri - if you know a fried for years, you don't have to TALK to him 10 hours to
find out that he needs help. You sometimes find it out in one second...

He does not even have to talk to you...

Any human beeing knows these things from live. It also works in chess and has to
do with the : how good are you used to something/somebody.

Thats a phnemomena any human beeing is capable of. It is very very precise. Much
more precise than any scientific approach would be.

I don'T know exactly how the brain is doing it.
But maybe it is not the brain...

Have you seen dolphins help children that are autistic or children that
have a desease ?!

The dolphins communicate with these children , they INSTANTLY "see" or feel that
this human-beeing needs help, they swim to it, make it happy, and in a certain
strange way, they heal the desease.

We human beeing have lost this ability. Because we don't believe in these
unscientific approaches anymore..
Dolphins still use them. Their whole society is build on these emotions.
Dolphins do not lie. They have a much higher social culture than we have.
The same way whales have. I don't believe humans are the crown of evolution.
Whales/dolphins are. They live in peace, have a much higher language and a more
complex brain. And - although we are their only enemy, they try to communicate
with us, their enemies.



>Uri



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