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Subject: Re: Anyone member of an online chess club here?

Author: Stuzzi Kadent

Date: 00:58:30 09/01/02

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On August 31, 2002 at 17:00:34, Omid David wrote:

>On August 30, 2002 at 06:00:28, Kunnar Klauks wrote:
>
>>On August 29, 2002 at 16:23:02, Stuzzi Kadent wrote:
>>
>>>I was just trying to canvas opinions on online chess clubs. I would like to
>>>follow GM tournaments live and maybe play speed chess (not blitz). But I don't
>>>know if there is any point playing online if people are just going to cheat.
>>>Kasparovchess.com looks a reasonably priced safe bet?
>>
>>I prefer FICS. I dont like ICC for a few reasons. First i have to pay. Second
>>big problem is their Blitzin interface. AFAIK its spyware and works only in
>>Windows. Third you have to pay even more if you want to play with GMs. GM plays
>>there only with other GM and time control is usually 3 0. Watching GM 3 0 games
>>is NOT improving your own game. In FICS registration is free and ALL games are
>>also free.
>
>If you want to learn chess, turn off your computer, and work intensively with
>books. Just studying Alekhine's games for example, is worth countless hours of
>online practice.
>
>If you want to practice what you've learned, participate in a real tournament
>(offline!). Online tournaments never have the intensity and pressure of real
>tournaments. Only in one 8 hour tournament match, you'll learn more than
>participating in many online tournaments.
>
>Of course computers can be used alongside, but they should never become the
>dominant mean of practice. By playing online, you can become a good blitz
>player, but never a real good player...
>
>Omid.

I do not remember anyone mentioning wanting to "learn chess" here.
8 hours is too much for most people with real lives to waste on a game and it
suggests their time is worth little, presuming less than a developing
Grandmaster. I'm not impressed either with this or your other ideas and snobbery
with their big holes to drive through.



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