Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 15:41:39 09/08/02
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On September 08, 2002 at 13:48:48, Ernst Walet wrote: how about if you mirror the position left to right and black and white. So Nb4 being the move to find :) >On September 02, 2002 at 03:59:32, Terry Ripple wrote: > >>On September 02, 2002 at 03:32:00, Steffen Jakob wrote: >> >>>On September 02, 2002 at 03:23:43, Terry Ripple wrote: >>> >>>>Hello again Steffen, >>>>I checked your problem once again, but with "Deep Fritz" and found out why you >>>>didn't find the solution with this engine. It wasn't because your pc is slow >>>>,but because Deep Fritz can't find the correct answer(Ng5+)and as a matter of >>>>fact it couldn't find it in 2 hours! What do you say to that? It can't do what >>>>it's brother Fritz 7 could do! >>> >>>The problem is that the score for Ng5+ (F7) is almost the same as for Qf4 (DF7). >>> >>>Greetings, >>>Steffen. >>--------------- >>Fritz 7 detected the difference of only .3 between the moves Qf4 and Ng5+. It's >>latest thought on Qf4 was 1.57 before switching to Ng5+ that started with a >>score of 1.60 and so i'am curious why Deep Fritz can't do the same detection? >> >>Wouldn't the scores need to be exactly the same to possibly not being able to >>show the correct answer? The scores from Fritz 7 seem to show enough difference >>and because Deep Fritz is a close brother in it's programming i thought it would >>be not much difference either and thus be able to find Ng5+. >> >>Regards, >> Terry > > >Fritz7 here does not have much difficulty finding Ng5+, 15 ply in 252 seconds. > >Ernst. > > >New game >r1b2r2/pp1p1p1k/1qn2Ppp/5p2/3p4/3B1N2/PPPQ1PPP/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Fritz 7: > >1.Rab1 d6 2.Bc4 Qd8 3.Rbd1 Qxf6 4.Qf4 Be6 5.Qxd6 > ² (0.47) Depth: 8/25 00:00:00 326kN >1.Rab1 Qd8 2.Re2 d5 3.Qf4 Qxf6 4.Rbe1 Be6 5.a3 > ² (0.59) Depth: 9/22 00:00:00 442kN >1.Qf4! > ² (0.63) Depth: 9/22 00:00:01 602kN >1.Qf4! > ± (0.78) Depth: 9/22 00:00:01 639kN >1.Qf4 Qxb2 2.Qh4 h5 3.Bxf5 Kg8 4.Be4 d5 > ± (0.84) Depth: 9/22 00:00:01 684kN >1.Qf4 d6 2.Qh4 h5 3.Ng5+ Kg8 4.Rab1 Be6 5.Nxe6 fxe6 6.Rxe6 Ne5 > ± (0.94) Depth: 10/25 00:00:02 1083kN >1.Qf4 d6 2.Qh4 h5 3.Rab1 Kg8 4.Qf4 Qd8 5.Qg5 Be6 6.a3 > ± (1.09) Depth: 11/29 00:00:05 2733kN >1.Qf4 d5 2.Qh4 h5 3.Rab1 Kg8 4.Qg5 Nd8 5.Ne5 Ne6 6.Qg3 Re8 > ± (1.22) Depth: 12/33 00:00:16 8807kN >1.Qf4 d5 2.Qh4 h5 3.g4 Nb4 4.Rad1 Nxd3 5.gxh5 g5 6.Nxg5+ Kh6 > ± (1.34) Depth: 13/35 00:01:11 39372kN >1.Qf4 Nb4 2.Qh4 Kg8 3.Nxd4 Nxd3 4.cxd3 d5 5.Rac1 a5 6.Rc2 Ra6 7.Nf3 Qxf6 8.Qxh6 > +- (1.56) Depth: 14/36 00:02:21 78927kN >1.Qf4 Nb4 2.Qh4 Kg8 3.Re5 d5 4.Bxf5 Qd6 5.Bd3 Bd7 6.Re7 Rad8 7.Rae1 Nc6 8.R7e2 > +- (1.59) Depth: 15/35 00:03:32 120868kN >1.Ng5+! > +- (1.63) Depth: 15/36 00:04:12 145232kN >1.Ng5+ hxg5 2.Qxg5 Nb4 3.Bxf5 Nd5 4.Be4 Qxf6 5.Qxd5 d6 6.Rad1 Be6 7.Qxd4 Qxd4 >8.Rxd4 > +- (1.69) Depth: 15/36 00:04:19 149599kN >1.Ng5+! > +- (1.97) Depth: 16/37 00:04:50 168520kN >1.Ng5+ hxg5 2.Qxg5 Nb4 3.Re5 d5 4.Bxf5 Bxf5 5.Qh4+ Kg8 6.Rxf5 Nxc2 7.Rh5 Qxf6 >8.Qxf6 > +- (2.09) Depth: 17/42 00:08:10 291633kN > >(Celeron 1.2GHz, 832MB hash, 3, 4 and 5 piece EGTB's 08.09.2002)
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