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Subject: Re: 'Simple' Pawn Endgame

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 05:43:56 09/13/02

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On September 13, 2002 at 08:22:21, Slater Wold wrote:

>On September 13, 2002 at 05:54:46, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On September 12, 2002 at 21:47:50, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>WITHOUT TABLEBASES:
>>>               24->   1.80  -0.14   1. ... Ke6 2. Kg4 Kf6 3. Kf3 Kf5 4.
>>>                                    g4+ Ke6 5. Ke3 Kd6 6. Kd2 Kc6 7. Kc3
>>>                                    Kb5 8. Kb3 h6 9. Kc3 Ka4 10. Kc2 Kb4
>>>                                    11. Kd3 Kb3 <HT>
>>>               25     2.16     ++   1. ... Ke6!!
>>>               25     2.58  -2.44   1. ... Ke6 2. Kg4 Kf6 3. Kf3 Kf5 4.
>>>                                    g4+ Ke6 5. Ke3 Kd6 6. Kd3 Kc6 7. Kc3
>>>                                    Kb5 8. Kb3 h6 9. Kc3 Ka4 10. Kc2 Kb4
>>>                                    11. Kd3 Kb3 12. Ke3 Kc3 13. Ke2 Kxd4
>>>                                    14. Kf3
>>>WITH TABLEBASES:
>>>               24->  12.31  -0.14   1. ... Ke6 2. Kg4 Kf6 3. Kf3 Kf5 4.
>>>                                    g4+ Ke6 5. Ke3 Kd6 6. Kd2 Kc6 7. Kc3
>>>                                    Kb5 8. Kb3 h6 9. Kc3 Ka4 10. Kd2 Kb4
>>>                                    11. Kd3 Kb3 <HT>
>>>               25    13.57     ++   1. ... Ke6!!
>>>               25    14.39  -2.28   1. ... Ke6 2. Kg4 Kf6 3. Kf3 Kf5 4.
>>>                                    g4+ Ke6 5. Ke3 Kd6 6. h6 Kc6 7. Kd3
>>>                                    Kb5 8. Kc3 Ka4 9. Kd2 Kb3 10. Kd3 Kb4
>>>                                    11. Kd2 Kc4 12. Ke3 Kc3 13. Kf2 Kxd4
>>>                                    14. Kf3
>>
>>Tablebases hurt :)
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>I think most engines nowadays don't need TBs.  1 year ago, this wasn't the case.
> (The Tiger game comes to mind, where it could mate with B+N.)

I hope you are the only one with that opinion.
Bernhard



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