Author: William Penn
Date: 04:44:22 10/12/02
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On October 12, 2002 at 07:42:06, pavel wrote: >On October 12, 2002 at 07:32:55, William Penn wrote: > >>On October 12, 2002 at 07:14:44, pavel wrote: >> >>>On October 12, 2002 at 07:08:12, William Penn wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>I've been studying this for awhile, and I'm now fairly sure that Fritz7 has a >>>>memory drain with W98se. If I monitor the free physical RAM with the W98 System >>>>Monitor while Fritz7 is running in infinite calculation mode with 128MB hash >>>>table on a 500MHz Celeron processor, 256MB RAM system, it gradually ticks down >>>>towards zero. Eventually it arrives at zero and then the computer becomes very >>>>sluggish and perhaps crashes. The rate of memory drain is about 2MB per minute. >>>>So it depends on how much free physical memory you have to start. If you have a >>>>lot, and you don't run Fritz7 for very long, it might not tick down to zero. But >>>>for those who run Fritz7 for long periods, it may become a serious problem. >>>> >>>>I think I've found a temporary solution. Of course the Fritz7 programmers need >>>>to fix this serious bug, but in the meantime... >>>> >>>>I'm testing a special little utility which boosts the free physical RAM by a >>>>preset amount every x minutes. It is somewhat arbitrary what settings to use, >>>>but I'm boosting to a minimum of 32MB RAM every 4 minutes. That means the free >>>>memory ticks down to about 24MB, then gets boosted back to 32MB, then ticks down >>>>to about 24MB, then gets boosted back to 32MB, ad infinitum in 4 minute cycles. >>>>There are several such utilities available, and I've only tried this one, which >>>>seems OK for this simple task. It's very simple and easy to understand & use. >>>>It's called "CyberLat RAM Cleaner" which can be downloaded at: >>>>http://www.cyberlatino.com.mx/ >>>>Yes, much of that website is in Spanish because the author lives in Mexico, but >>>>this software utility is written in English. >>>> >>>>The other consideration with W95/W98/W98se/WinMe is of course system resources, >>>>which are quite limited with those op systems. (WinNT/2000/XP don't have that >>>>problem.) But Fritz7 is not too greedy in that regard, and that's not the >>>>problem here. The problem is definitely a memory drain. Some might call it a >>>>memory leak. >>>>WP >>> >>>It is a well known fact that Previous MS OS like Win95, Win98 and WinME has >>>serious memory leak problems. I have running Chessbase products for few yrs now >>>both in Windows2000 and WindowsXP machines, so far I didn't have any memory leak >>>problems. >>> >>>I suspect the OS is to be blamed, not the program. >>>Also programs like "RAM Cleaner" is going to mess up (or rather, Clean Up) the >>>hash tables of the program. >>> >>>Solution: Get rid of Win98. And Get Win2k. >>> >>>pavs >> >>I disagree. >>The problem is a bug in the Fritz7 software. It needs to be fixed. >>The problem is not with the W95/98/98se/Me op systems. Software needs to take >>the nature of those op systems into account, and provide for them. They cannot >>be disregarded. >>The solution is NOT to change the op system, but to have the lazy Fritz7 >>programmers fix their bug! >>WP > >:) >If you are trying to catch the attention of the programmer, maybe you should >e-mail them. > >Anyone with the slightest knowledge about Win98 should know the memory leak >problem of the OS, instead of blaming the software... > >How many times a day does Win98 crash? > >Exactly! > >pavs Your response is ridiculous, and not worthy of further comment... WP
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