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Subject: Re: the Fritz7 memory drain (W98se)

Author: William Penn

Date: 04:44:22 10/12/02

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On October 12, 2002 at 07:42:06, pavel wrote:

>On October 12, 2002 at 07:32:55, William Penn wrote:
>
>>On October 12, 2002 at 07:14:44, pavel wrote:
>>
>>>On October 12, 2002 at 07:08:12, William Penn wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've been studying this for awhile, and I'm now fairly sure that Fritz7 has a
>>>>memory drain with W98se. If I monitor the free physical RAM with the W98 System
>>>>Monitor while Fritz7 is running in infinite calculation mode with 128MB hash
>>>>table on a 500MHz Celeron processor, 256MB RAM system, it gradually ticks down
>>>>towards zero. Eventually it arrives at zero and then the computer becomes very
>>>>sluggish and perhaps crashes. The rate of memory drain is about 2MB per minute.
>>>>So it depends on how much free physical memory you have to start. If you have a
>>>>lot, and you don't run Fritz7 for very long, it might not tick down to zero. But
>>>>for those who run Fritz7 for long periods, it may become a serious problem.
>>>>
>>>>I think I've found a temporary solution. Of course the Fritz7 programmers need
>>>>to fix this serious bug, but in the meantime...
>>>>
>>>>I'm testing a special little utility which boosts the free physical RAM by a
>>>>preset amount every x minutes. It is somewhat arbitrary what settings to use,
>>>>but I'm boosting to a minimum of 32MB RAM every 4 minutes. That means the free
>>>>memory ticks down to about 24MB, then gets boosted back to 32MB, then ticks down
>>>>to about 24MB, then gets boosted back to 32MB, ad infinitum in 4 minute cycles.
>>>>There are several such utilities available, and I've only tried this one, which
>>>>seems OK for this simple task. It's very simple and easy to understand & use.
>>>>It's called "CyberLat RAM Cleaner" which can be downloaded at:
>>>>http://www.cyberlatino.com.mx/
>>>>Yes, much of that website is in Spanish because the author lives in Mexico, but
>>>>this software utility is written in English.
>>>>
>>>>The other consideration with W95/W98/W98se/WinMe is of course system resources,
>>>>which are quite limited with those op systems. (WinNT/2000/XP don't have that
>>>>problem.) But Fritz7 is not too greedy in that regard, and that's not the
>>>>problem here. The problem is definitely a memory drain. Some might call it a
>>>>memory leak.
>>>>WP
>>>
>>>It is a well known fact that Previous MS OS like Win95, Win98 and WinME has
>>>serious memory leak problems. I have running Chessbase products for few yrs now
>>>both in Windows2000 and WindowsXP machines, so far I didn't have any memory leak
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>I suspect the OS is to be blamed, not the program.
>>>Also programs like "RAM Cleaner" is going to mess up (or rather, Clean Up) the
>>>hash tables of the program.
>>>
>>>Solution: Get rid of Win98. And Get Win2k.
>>>
>>>pavs
>>
>>I disagree.
>>The problem is a bug in the Fritz7 software. It needs to be fixed.
>>The problem is not with the W95/98/98se/Me op systems. Software needs to take
>>the nature of those op systems into account, and provide for them. They cannot
>>be disregarded.
>>The solution is NOT to change the op system, but to have the lazy Fritz7
>>programmers fix their bug!
>>WP
>
>:)
>If you are trying to catch the attention of the programmer, maybe you should
>e-mail them.
>
>Anyone with the slightest knowledge about Win98 should know the memory leak
>problem of the OS, instead of blaming the software...
>
>How many times a day does Win98 crash?
>
>Exactly!
>
>pavs

Your response is ridiculous, and not worthy of further comment...
WP



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