Author: pavel
Date: 04:42:06 10/12/02
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On October 12, 2002 at 07:32:55, William Penn wrote: >On October 12, 2002 at 07:14:44, pavel wrote: > >>On October 12, 2002 at 07:08:12, William Penn wrote: >> >>> >>>I've been studying this for awhile, and I'm now fairly sure that Fritz7 has a >>>memory drain with W98se. If I monitor the free physical RAM with the W98 System >>>Monitor while Fritz7 is running in infinite calculation mode with 128MB hash >>>table on a 500MHz Celeron processor, 256MB RAM system, it gradually ticks down >>>towards zero. Eventually it arrives at zero and then the computer becomes very >>>sluggish and perhaps crashes. The rate of memory drain is about 2MB per minute. >>>So it depends on how much free physical memory you have to start. If you have a >>>lot, and you don't run Fritz7 for very long, it might not tick down to zero. But >>>for those who run Fritz7 for long periods, it may become a serious problem. >>> >>>I think I've found a temporary solution. Of course the Fritz7 programmers need >>>to fix this serious bug, but in the meantime... >>> >>>I'm testing a special little utility which boosts the free physical RAM by a >>>preset amount every x minutes. It is somewhat arbitrary what settings to use, >>>but I'm boosting to a minimum of 32MB RAM every 4 minutes. That means the free >>>memory ticks down to about 24MB, then gets boosted back to 32MB, then ticks down >>>to about 24MB, then gets boosted back to 32MB, ad infinitum in 4 minute cycles. >>>There are several such utilities available, and I've only tried this one, which >>>seems OK for this simple task. It's very simple and easy to understand & use. >>>It's called "CyberLat RAM Cleaner" which can be downloaded at: >>>http://www.cyberlatino.com.mx/ >>>Yes, much of that website is in Spanish because the author lives in Mexico, but >>>this software utility is written in English. >>> >>>The other consideration with W95/W98/W98se/WinMe is of course system resources, >>>which are quite limited with those op systems. (WinNT/2000/XP don't have that >>>problem.) But Fritz7 is not too greedy in that regard, and that's not the >>>problem here. The problem is definitely a memory drain. Some might call it a >>>memory leak. >>>WP >> >>It is a well known fact that Previous MS OS like Win95, Win98 and WinME has >>serious memory leak problems. I have running Chessbase products for few yrs now >>both in Windows2000 and WindowsXP machines, so far I didn't have any memory leak >>problems. >> >>I suspect the OS is to be blamed, not the program. >>Also programs like "RAM Cleaner" is going to mess up (or rather, Clean Up) the >>hash tables of the program. >> >>Solution: Get rid of Win98. And Get Win2k. >> >>pavs > >I disagree. >The problem is a bug in the Fritz7 software. It needs to be fixed. >The problem is not with the W95/98/98se/Me op systems. Software needs to take >the nature of those op systems into account, and provide for them. They cannot >be disregarded. >The solution is NOT to change the op system, but to have the lazy Fritz7 >programmers fix their bug! >WP :) If you are trying to catch the attention of the programmer, maybe you should e-mail them. Anyone with the slightest knowledge about Win98 should know the memory leak problem of the OS, instead of blaming the software... How many times a day does Win98 crash? Exactly! pavs
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