Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:59:54 09/15/98
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On September 15, 1998 at 14:08:21, Amir Ban wrote: >On September 15, 1998 at 10:34:37, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >> >>I think it is a program that is difficult to evaluate. It is really killing >>other programs on ICC. Yet I also watched it lose 2 and draw 1 game vs a >>well-known IM there (cptnbluebeard in a single 3 game match. Granted, 3 games >>is not much of a sample, but it simply got rolled up on king-side attacks in >>both of the losses, and if it had been running in an automatic mode it probably >>would have lost several more. This is a common attacking style that takes some >>work to solve, which is why I think the auto-interface to a server is so >>important. Because then you can't stop a match after getting smacked twice, >>you have to stop getting smacked instead. >> > >:) > >You can't continue a match after your opponent disappears either. He logged off. > >For some reason almost all the strong players on ICC won't play me. I'm even on >some computers noplay list. > we are unfortunately suffering from a computer "glut" partially blamed on me, of course. But you aren't the only one having this problem, although I have a couple of IM and GM players that are regulars (Kirlian is very strong, as one example). > >>So, an interesting question for discussion is "what makes Junior so very strong >>vs computers and yet fall to a standard king-side pawn storm?" >> > >That's not what happened in this match, but anyway what's your point ? Is this a >beginner's trap that only weak players fall for ? Not sure there is a "point"... just a noted "thing". Your program is obviously very strong, particularly against other computers as I have noted. But if you get pawn-stormed that easily and often, an automatic interface would force you to fix it or end up at 2300. It's happened to me *many* times. Bruce as well. And it only makes you stronger. > > >>For the record, Crafty is +58, -11, =27 against this player, while Ferret is >>+19, -0(!), =11 against him. So cptnbluebear is not a patzer for sure. It >>seems to be another transitivity issue. But one thing is for certain, Junior >>is *very* strong against computers. *very* strong. > >So you think Crafty would do better against strong humans in equal conditions ? >Is this your point ? > >Amir I don't know. I only know that Crafty won't get rolled in a kingside attack very often. It does (at times) "help" it's opponent in this regard, because it is quite aggressive and sometimes attacks when the opponent is in a better position to attack than it is... I call this "self immolation" (setting yourself on fire). And I don't know/think there's something seriously wrong with the way you play. I hope I didn't leave that impression. But more games will either cause you to fix the problem or start noplaying certain players. Kirlian is good at these types of attacks. Orlov as well. Kim Commons (Kingway). Tim. Etc...
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