Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 05:17:37 12/09/02
Go up one level in this thread
On December 09, 2002 at 07:27:51, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 09, 2002 at 06:44:55, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On December 09, 2002 at 05:15:08, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>To get REALLY improved top engine, I mean! >>> >>>According to SSDF Deep Fritz 7 is 14 points stronger than Fritz 7 (and probably >>>Fritz 8 is very close) >> >> >>IMO DF7 is more than 14pts stronger than F7. >> >> >>>and Tiger 15 is 16 points over Tiger 14. Not so much. >> >> >>Needs further testing. >> >> >>>I quess, that Shredder 7 will have much more progress. >> >> >>That is based on marketing placed by Sandro and Helmut. Simply a GUESS. Maybe >>you should also try to GUESS how many former engines have also been announced to >>be 50pts or more stronger than the predecessor and FAILED. Pls. note: I DO NOT AND NEVER MADE MARKETING! >>Believe me, much more than one. Actually, as it seems, Tiger 15 falls into this >>category. So calm down, wait and see whether Shredder 7 will really show an >>improvement of 50pts. We have made a huge amount of games and based on those we can state that the most reliable figure is 50 points. Pls. consider that the opening books have a huge no. of variations and depending on them and the selection toward the opponents this can vary, THIS IS WHY I AM TALKING ABOUT MOST RELIABLE GUESS! >> >> >>>Note, that Shredder 6 is 55 points over 5.32 and Paderborn version full 72 points. Do it Stefan! >> >> >>Did you notice the difference between DeepFritz 7 K6-450 <-> A-1200 and Tiger 15 >>K6-450 <-> A-1200? What do you say now? > >I do not know and I guess that tiger was simply unlucky on A1200 and lucky on >K6-450(there is a statistical error) Yes, but I was talking about 45 points improvement. Pls. note program improvements so no link with a specific hardware. Also the program may was a little lucky with slow hardware so more or less this is the improvement. Why Uri does not admit I was right rather than criticizing every time he think he has the opportunity? Again I repeat that I do not care about real Elo improvements as my interest is to improve my opening book and win the WCCC! > > >Note that the predictions were also better at the time of shredder6 > >Here is a link to the prediction > >http://ccc.it.ro/search/ccc.php?art_id=199339 Pls. remember that I was talking about 50 points improvement based on UCI version; the one with my book, which was not tested by SSDF on A1200. > >The prediction were at least 80 elo better for shredder6. >The prediction was also for sandro's book but I understand that shredder >passerborn is using that book. Yes, it does, but using the book made for Shredder 6.0, not for this different version, so not fully optimized! > >shredder padderborn is supposed to have also a better engine but the ssdf gives >it only 72 elo better than shredder5.32. This is why it is not showing about 10-15 points more. Pls. try to be precise, when possible as I do!!!! (This to please Deborah) > >Uri Ciao Sandro
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.