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Subject: Re: But, Re: Questions re P4 3.03 with HT ??

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:50:29 12/11/02

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On December 11, 2002 at 02:45:29, Matt Taylor wrote:

>On December 11, 2002 at 00:23:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2002 at 23:05:22, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 2002 at 22:51:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Several post one set of results.  One person posts another.  And _that_
>>>>post is the "bible"???
>>>
>>>No, but neither is the post totally worthless as you claim it to be.
>>
>>
>>I've come to the conclusion that _most_ of his posts are worthless.
>>
>>A few examples:
>>
>>1.  The xeons with hyper-threading are not available and probably won't be
>>available for a year or two.  Even though I just bought one from Dell and
>>have it in my office.
>>
>>2.  hyper-threading doesn't work.  Even though both I and that "ferkin
>>idiot" nalimov both posted results showing it _does_ work.
>>
>>3.  parallel search is deterministic in its behavior.  Even though every
>>parallel researcher on the planet has discussed this non-deterministic behavior
>>and how annoying it can be.
>>
>>4.  speedups > 2.0 for two processors and > 4.0 for four processors can
>>be done and he "proofed" it.  Even though any textbook discussing parallel
>>algorithms totally debunks this myth right off the bat...
>>
>>5.  If a program isn't "diep" it is "crap" or "buggy" or "rude" or "simple"
>>or whatever else you want...  even though he can't reliably beat those
>>programs with his.
>>
>>6.  The Intel compiler is buggy and can't produce correct code, even though it
>>is used by professionals all over the world.
>>
>>7.  Crafty produces _no_ speedup when running on a dual processor.  Even though
>>everyone that tried it came up with numbers close to the 1.7X I have mentioned
>>for several years.
>>
>>I will get tired of typing before I run out of examples...
>>
>>The list goes on and on...
>>
>>crap, crap and more crap.  Covered with crap.  With crap on the top.
>
>Look on the bright side. I find him very entertaining. He told me that my system
>was incapable of running with a single DIMM. I double and triple-checked to make
>sure: yep. I have my single 1 GB Samsung DIMM in there.

Your machine is not working and I am sure he can "proof" it.

Just as surely as the machine in my office is really only a picture clipped from
the
Dell website.  :)


>
>I had to check again just to make sure that chance hadn't taken advantage of me
>and caused one to spontaneously form and seat itself properly. Plus, if it had,
>I could probably make a lucrative business exploiting that.
>
>I still haven't ruled out the possibility that such a phenomenon happens and the
>DIMM disappears when I take off the side panel to my case. I need to get ram
>gremlins to sit in there with a camera just-in-case. Maybe I'll go check
>pricewatch for some ram gremlins...
>
>-Matt



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