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Subject: Re: No problem to identify that white is a computer program by this game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:55:29 09/18/98

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On September 18, 1998 at 17:44:44, Mark Young wrote:

>On September 18, 1998 at 12:35:09, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On September 18, 1998 at 04:21:10, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>No it does not find the right moves but I do not think that my 16 bit version is
>>>the last version.
>>>I told amir ban about a bug in the evaluation of king ,wrong bishop and more
>>>than one pawn against a king(it does not know that 2 pawns are not better than
>>>1) and I do not know if he fixed it.
>>>I think also that Junior5 cannot find it because it does not understand the idea
>>>when there are rooks but I am not sure about it.
>>>
>>>I am not sure if it is a draw even after gxh3 but the right move is 47.g3 and
>>>Junior cannot find it
>>>Junior could not find 46...h3 and prefered a3
>>
>>I think that if it is not a draw after gxh3, there would have to be a study-like
>>conclusion.
>>
>>If the pawns are stripped off it is a draw, since RB vs R is drawn in the
>>typical case.  If the rooks are traded, it is a draw because of the "impotent
>>pair".  If the B is sacrificed for the two pawns somehow it is a draw because
>>the two pawns up R+P ending would be easily drawn.
>>
>>The only way it can be won is if white can advance an h-pawn, with or without
>>winning the g-pawn (one h-pawn can be traded for it if necessary), without
>>trading any pieces, and without allowing counterplay via the a-pawn.
>>
>>Seems like an extremely tall order to me.
>>
>>This is a typical Crafty endgame zap.  It has been doing this for years.
>>
>>bruce
>
>I don't now how typical it is for crafty to do this at blitz time controls, but
>typical or not it was a cool zap. And I don't know of any other program that
>would play h3. I liked it.
>(Crafty was running on a P II 233, Frizt 5 was running on a P II 400)


it sounds like a tablebase + evaluation connection. Tablebases to know that
KRB vs KR is a draw, and it has specific knowledge about K vs B with rp of the
wrong color (or two or even 4 rook pawns on the same file)...

sometimes it works...



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