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Subject: Re: Maybe a mate?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:07:08 12/28/02

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On December 28, 2002 at 01:06:11, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On December 27, 2002 at 17:48:52, David Rasmussen wrote:
>
>>b2r2kr/p1pqb1p1/1p5p/4p3/2P1N1P1/1P2Q3/P3P2P/4KRR1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Is this a forced mate? Well, of course it is, it's at least a forced mate in 500
>>I should think, but is there a forced mate that a program can find in any
>>reasonable time (< a week) or that a human with the aid of a computer could
>>find?
>
>Not that it is too interesting. It is a mate in 18 or shorter.
>
> 12.01	 0:00 	  +M18	1...Bh4+ 2.Rg3 Qd1+ 3.Kf2 Rf8+ 4.Qf3 Qd4+ 5.Ke1 Bxg3+
>6.Nxg3 Bxf3 7.exf3 e4 8.Nxe4 Qe3+ 9.Kd1 Rd8+ 10.Kc2 Qe2+ 11.Kc1 Qxf1+ 12.Kb2
>Qxf3 13.g5
>
>I found this out by just follwing suggested lines with Yace in analyze mode
>until mate was seen, and going backward. When white tried a different
>alternative, I did the same with this.
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

How much time did you give yace to analyze every move for black and for white
when you did it?

5...Rxf3 instead 5...Bxg3+ is mate in at most 11 based on my post so I guess
shorter mate.

My guess is mate in at most 15(maybe even 14)
I did not prove mate in 11 after 5.Kg2 but it seems to my eye that 5.Kg2 is even
worse than 5.Ke1.

Uri



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