Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:58:16 01/11/03
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On January 11, 2003 at 13:48:16, Christopher A. Morgan wrote: > > >Levy is president of ICGA, the organization that is hosting the match. He >states a well known fact about the relative speed of the Deep Blue hardware at >200 million nodes per second and the likely speed of whatever machine the DJ >team will use, 2-4 million nodes per second. Given that fact he has to say >something about today’s programs on the hardware it will use in the match in >comparison to the 1997 Deep Blue v Kasparov match. We should expect him to say >exactly what he said. I would not give a whole lot of credence to his >statement. I would have to agree. The "statement" is really mainly intended to increase interest in the event. David _knows_ better, of course... > >What is fairly apparent now is that speeds of 2 million nps or so seem >sufficient to give super grandmasters, 2700 ELO plus, fits using any of the >various top programs. It seems that 200 million nps is an overkill to be >competitive with the world champ. There seems to be little discussion of this >point. That is that Deep Blue running at, say 4 million nps could have been >just as competitive as it was with GK in 1997, as it was running at 200 million >nps. > Maybe... although deep thought ran at that speed and had great trouble with players at the top of the FIDE list. It mangled most everybody else, however. > >On January 11, 2003 at 08:23:43, Frank Phillips wrote: > >>"The next question is, and many people are asking it, do we know how Deep Junior >>compares in strength with Deep Blue? The really interesting thing, from the AI >>point of view in general and for computer chess researchers in particular, is >>that Deep Junior examines something like one percent of the number of positions >>per second of Deep Blue. But despite this Deep Junior may well play better chess >>because its "understanding" of the game is better. It appears to have more chess >>knowledge and understanding in its evaluation function than Deep Blue did, and >>this compensates for the difference in positions-per-second.." Extract from >>Levy on Chessbase.com site >> >> >>From what I read in Behind Deep Blue I find this surprising. But then again, I >>no nothing about Junior other than it is an awesome program. >> >>If only Hsu had produced his chip so we could have answered this question rather >>than use it to fires. >> >>Good luck to Junior and team in the coming match. >> >>Frank
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