Author: Dirk Frickenschmidt
Date: 08:50:37 09/25/98
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On September 24, 1998 at 14:46:18, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On September 24, 1998 at 03:02:57, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>On September 24, 1998 at 02:01:22, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>I know you have ICC as your source for improvement. But not all of us >>>are able or willing to join ICC as a new source of information. But if >>>auto232 is going to die because of the ongoing discussion I will certainly >>>re-order my thoughts about ICC because I need input to improve my >>>chess program and the more input the better. >> >>I get the idea that you'd spend a lot of time looking at games you played in the >>autoplayer. I don't spend much time looking at the ones I get from ICC, in many >>cases I don't see them at all. >> >>I often watch games as they are being played, and I get some ideas from this, >>but it is not like I am spending lots of time trying to analyze every game. >> >>No particular point here other than that I think some people have been thinking >>about doing the ICC thing because I do it, so they should know that most of the >>reason I do it is that it is fun, pure and simple. >> >>If you wanted to get long time control games there, the odds that you could get >>them against a strong human are very low. If you wanted to play anything at >>tournament time controls you'd probably either play a low rated player or some >>guy who is using a computer whether or not he admits it. >> >>Mine has played 962 rated standard games over a period of almost four years, >>almost all are 30 0 or thereabouts, and almost all are against computers or >>people who later turn out to have been cheating with a computer. >> >>I think ICC is mainly for blitz, but as I have said, it is fun, and from this >>standpoint I recommend it to everyone. >> >>bruce > > >Not to mention the fact that you can play *lots* of such games vs GM players >rather than against the same program. This exposes *lots* of problems that >playing only computers won't show... Hi Bob, less and less when I ask a GM to play a game against a new program (or program version) they like the idea to play a strong program. Since Junior5 (200MMX) has an ICC rating of over 2800 (2860 just now) most GMs refuse to play it. And via internet I can't offer them a beer to rethink that ;-) How do you get them to play? Perhaps because you know some of them since quite a while and they are willing to do you the favour from time to time? I'm thankful for any advice... Kind regards from Dirk
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