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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:46:18 09/24/98

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On September 24, 1998 at 03:02:57, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On September 24, 1998 at 02:01:22, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>I know you have ICC as your source for improvement. But not all of us
>>are able or willing to join ICC as a new source of information. But if
>>auto232 is going to die because of the ongoing discussion I will certainly
>>re-order my thoughts about ICC because I need input to improve my
>>chess program and the more input the better.
>
>I get the idea that you'd spend a lot of time looking at games you played in the
>autoplayer.  I don't spend much time looking at the ones I get from ICC, in many
>cases I don't see them at all.
>
>I often watch games as they are being played, and I get some ideas from this,
>but it is not like I am spending lots of time trying to analyze every game.
>
>No particular point here other than that I think some people have been thinking
>about doing the ICC thing because I do it, so they should know that most of the
>reason I do it is that it is fun, pure and simple.
>
>If you wanted to get long time control games there, the odds that you could get
>them against a strong human are very low.  If you wanted to play anything at
>tournament time controls you'd probably either play a low rated player or some
>guy who is using a computer whether or not he admits it.
>
>Mine has played 962 rated standard games over a period of almost four years,
>almost all are 30 0 or thereabouts, and almost all are against computers or
>people who later turn out to have been cheating with a computer.
>
>I think ICC is mainly for blitz, but as I have said, it is fun, and from this
>standpoint I recommend it to everyone.
>
>bruce


Not to mention the fact that you can play *lots* of such games vs GM players
rather than against the same program.  This exposes *lots* of problems that
playing only computers won't show...



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