Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 01:15:15 01/27/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 03:25:38, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 27, 2003 at 02:18:36, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >>On January 27, 2003 at 01:58:02, Bob Bachman wrote: >> >>>What I cannot understand about the opinions expressed here about the Kasparov-DJ >>>game is how quickly everyone gets on a soapbox and makes some obviously >>>inappropriate comments, like why DJ is terrible, why another program should have >>>taken DJ's place, how could the program play so bad, I will never buy a program >>>that can play so bad, etc. >> >>Yes, this is crap. >> >>>These statements are all over reactions. I saw the same general thing after each >>>game of the Kramnik-DF match. Let us step back a minute. Kasparov-DJ followed >>>previous games until white's 13th move (although DJ apparently was out of book >>>earlier). These previous games certainly are not convincing in White's >>>superiority. So what do you expect the DJ team to do, anticipate TN's on >>>Kasparov's part and adjust the book accordingly? Is the program (or any other >>>program) good enough to anticipate these TN's many ply's in advance. >>> >>>To see how bad DJ's evaluation function is, why do we not play some engine >>>matches with various black alternatives to 13 ... b5. I have a suspicion that >>>these alternatives are not great for black (I am not good enough to make this >>>statement however). Therefore it comes down to Kaspaov's superb insight or >>>pre-match preparation. Take your pick, you got to love it. Personally I am >>>ecstatic to be even able to watch such a match. >> >>DJ lost. Aside from this, neither it nor its team has anything to be ashamed >>of. Chess is a zero-sum game. Sometimes you lose. Losses are rarely pretty. >>When computers lose, it's even more likely that you'll see something ugly, >>because a computer will make the strongest move it can, not the strongest move >>that is not embarassing. >> >>bruce > >I do not criticize the Rae8 of Junior but I criticize the b5 move when most >engines can play better. 17...Rae8? has to be criticized. It is like resigning. 17...Rab8 is a practical chance. It seems to me that Kasparovs response would have been 18.Rhe1! with big advantage. However, after 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Qxe5 Qa4 black has some chances for a draw. > >I guess that part of it is a good job of kasparov who prepared opening that >Junior does not play well and part of it is a failure of the Junior team to >improve Junior in the last 6 months to avoid that error or to give Junior better >opening book that at least can hide the problem in known lines to force kasparov >to get out of book early in order to try to take advantage of Junior's >weaknesses. > >Part of it may be also hardware that is not fast enough and it may be >interesting to know Junior's evaluations and if Junior could avoid b5 with a >deeper search. > >It may be interesting to read Comments from Amir Ban about it. > >Uri
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