Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:25:38 01/27/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 02:18:36, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On January 27, 2003 at 01:58:02, Bob Bachman wrote: > >>What I cannot understand about the opinions expressed here about the Kasparov-DJ >>game is how quickly everyone gets on a soapbox and makes some obviously >>inappropriate comments, like why DJ is terrible, why another program should have >>taken DJ's place, how could the program play so bad, I will never buy a program >>that can play so bad, etc. > >Yes, this is crap. > >>These statements are all over reactions. I saw the same general thing after each >>game of the Kramnik-DF match. Let us step back a minute. Kasparov-DJ followed >>previous games until white's 13th move (although DJ apparently was out of book >>earlier). These previous games certainly are not convincing in White's >>superiority. So what do you expect the DJ team to do, anticipate TN's on >>Kasparov's part and adjust the book accordingly? Is the program (or any other >>program) good enough to anticipate these TN's many ply's in advance. >> >>To see how bad DJ's evaluation function is, why do we not play some engine >>matches with various black alternatives to 13 ... b5. I have a suspicion that >>these alternatives are not great for black (I am not good enough to make this >>statement however). Therefore it comes down to Kaspaov's superb insight or >>pre-match preparation. Take your pick, you got to love it. Personally I am >>ecstatic to be even able to watch such a match. > >DJ lost. Aside from this, neither it nor its team has anything to be ashamed >of. Chess is a zero-sum game. Sometimes you lose. Losses are rarely pretty. >When computers lose, it's even more likely that you'll see something ugly, >because a computer will make the strongest move it can, not the strongest move >that is not embarassing. > >bruce I do not criticize the Rae8 of Junior but I criticize the b5 move when most engines can play better. I guess that part of it is a good job of kasparov who prepared opening that Junior does not play well and part of it is a failure of the Junior team to improve Junior in the last 6 months to avoid that error or to give Junior better opening book that at least can hide the problem in known lines to force kasparov to get out of book early in order to try to take advantage of Junior's weaknesses. Part of it may be also hardware that is not fast enough and it may be interesting to know Junior's evaluations and if Junior could avoid b5 with a deeper search. It may be interesting to read Comments from Amir Ban about it. Uri
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