Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 23:18:36 01/26/03
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On January 27, 2003 at 01:58:02, Bob Bachman wrote: >What I cannot understand about the opinions expressed here about the Kasparov-DJ >game is how quickly everyone gets on a soapbox and makes some obviously >inappropriate comments, like why DJ is terrible, why another program should have >taken DJ's place, how could the program play so bad, I will never buy a program >that can play so bad, etc. Yes, this is crap. >These statements are all over reactions. I saw the same general thing after each >game of the Kramnik-DF match. Let us step back a minute. Kasparov-DJ followed >previous games until white's 13th move (although DJ apparently was out of book >earlier). These previous games certainly are not convincing in White's >superiority. So what do you expect the DJ team to do, anticipate TN's on >Kasparov's part and adjust the book accordingly? Is the program (or any other >program) good enough to anticipate these TN's many ply's in advance. > >To see how bad DJ's evaluation function is, why do we not play some engine >matches with various black alternatives to 13 ... b5. I have a suspicion that >these alternatives are not great for black (I am not good enough to make this >statement however). Therefore it comes down to Kaspaov's superb insight or >pre-match preparation. Take your pick, you got to love it. Personally I am >ecstatic to be even able to watch such a match. DJ lost. Aside from this, neither it nor its team has anything to be ashamed of. Chess is a zero-sum game. Sometimes you lose. Losses are rarely pretty. When computers lose, it's even more likely that you'll see something ugly, because a computer will make the strongest move it can, not the strongest move that is not embarassing. bruce >On another matter, I am continually amazed at all the conspiracy theorists who >abound in this forum, on why this and previous matches results are pre-ordained. >Why, is chess alone so crooked or is it all sport? If you believe this I think >you fall into the Fischer thinking that all matches after 1972 were fixed. Give >me a break. Players have egos and they want to win. Winning always means more >money and more prestiege. Only when fear gets you, do you lose your fighting >spirit and play for the draw. > >Enough of my rant. I prefer to watch the games, no matter what the outcome, >enjoy them for what they are and then analyze thme and wait for the next game. >What are the alternatives, no man-machine games at all. What we are are >witnessing is what the group collectively dreams about, shouldn't we be happy. >It is a golden time (even the mainstream media likes it). > >Bob
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