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Subject: Re: ??????

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 06:08:03 02/10/03

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On February 10, 2003 at 07:42:06, Albert Silver wrote:

>>I'm having trouble following this thread.  Would someone, other than the
>>principals in this discussion, please explain what in the world they're talking
>>about?
>
>Bob mentioned that he knows of GMs that have played lines or moves they had not
>thoroughly investigated themselves, relying on analysis others had provided.
>Rolf claimed this couldn't be true and started arguing why it couldn't be true.
>I gave some examples of past giants and then of some I personally know of. Rolf
>is still insistent so it is clear that whatever one says he will stick to his
>belief. So be it.

No, wait a second, I have a minor correction. Not belief but scientifical
knowledge sounds better, Albert. While your alleged examples should be called
delusions.

Al,
let's keep our peace with that. I think that I know now what Bob had in mind
when he said that. He gave a good description here the other day. It was during
a tournament comp & human, among them also experts and I don't recall exactly
also a master. And fact was that a prog had a defect book and at least one
player repeated without further thoughts the line in question. But this is not a
good example for our little debate here. As to your examples I raised the
necessary objections. In a serious game a GM simply can't do that also if from
the outside it might look as such.

In science I can affirme you, such questions are daily job.

Here the final hint. Of course my "thesis" was not a theory. Because by simply
asking a GM to do it you could refutate the thesis. If it would have been meant
this way! But it never was. I had thought that the term "drunken" had excluded
such speculations. So, to be clear, a sound GM would never play a _serious_ game
like that. And I am sure that you know that very well. Before you could debate
such questions one must always look carefully at the given or implied
definitions. In fact MOST debates suffer from being aware of this context. That
is normal. No reason to get excited. By chance I'm an expert of such questions
so that might have disturbed you because of prejudices from rgcc. I have no bad
feelings to you, but a bit of humour should be allowed.

Moral: A smart one can fake being dumb, but a dumb could never fake smartness.

Rolf Tueschen


>
>                                        Albert



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