Author: Charles Worthington
Date: 11:25:43 02/18/03
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On February 18, 2003 at 13:55:15, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 18, 2003 at 12:53:14, Charles Worthington wrote: > >>On February 18, 2003 at 12:02:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On February 17, 2003 at 23:51:46, Charles Worthington wrote: >>> >>>>Bob please tell me that I didn't just spend 18,900$ on this Dual 3.06 xeon >>>>ststem for no reason...I certainly hope there will be a significant performance >>>>increase over the amd 2400mp and xp. The fastest AMD on playchess pulls around >>>>2300 kns with deep fritz 7. I had hoped with dual 3.06 xeons and the new intel >>>>E7505 chipset i would exceed 3000 kNs. Was this unreasonable of me to expect >>>>this much speed? >>> >>> >>>I hope you didn't really mean "18,900 dollars". >>> >>>Current prices are: >>> >>>dual 2.8xeon + chassis + 2gb RAM, plus 2 x 36 gig U320 15K scsi drives, plus the >>>usual HD power supply, etc, for under $4,000. You mentioned 146 gig scsi >>>drives. >>>I bought three of those for my new ftp machine (there are no 15K 146 gig SCSI >>>drives that I am aware of so you take a rotational latency performance hit by >>>backing >>>off to 10K) and paid just under $1,000 each at MicroWarehouse. >>> >>>If you meant 8,900, that is closer to reality, although it seems high to me >>>looking at >>>dell prices. >>> >>>I can't answer the speed issue with respect to fritz. Crafty on my dual 2.8 >>>runs at about >>>2.5M nodes per second. This is with the quad-pumped 100mhz (400mhz claimed) >>>FSB. >>>Newer xeons are quad-pumped 133mhz (533mhz claimed) and should be even faster. >>>I'd >>>suspect Crafty might get close to 3M on that machine, in a position where it >>>gets 2.5M on >>>mine. I have no idea whether fritz is faster or slower in raw NPS however... >>My mistake...the drives are 10,000 RPM BOB but the price quote is correct. I >>bought the machine with all available options including the 4GB RAM and filled >>all hard drive bays with the largest drives. The biggest expense though was the >>memory. around 4 thousand if i remember right > > >OK. I haven't tried to run a configuration like that thru dell recently. I >generally try to >buy a complete system from them, less the hard drives which I can generally find >elsewhere >at a significantly lower price. Since they are hot-swappable, it takes four >screws to mount >the drive on the "drive sled" and you slide it in and run, no jumpers or >anything as the >backplane has that hard-coded for each slot. > >10K 146 gig drives are just under $1,000 at MicroWarehouse, as I said. I also >bought my >36gig Seagate 15K drives (U320 scsi 80 pin) there as well for about $600 bucks >each. > >DDR RAM isn't terribly expensive, but I haven't priced it for a 533mhz FSB since >I don't >have one of those here to deal with. For my 400mhz FSB box, 1 gig was not that >expensive >although I don't have the quote in front of me to produce an exact price. But I >don't generally >buy third-party memory, it can be _way_ problematic. In all honesty Bob I ordered the system with all accessories because I did not wish to go through the hassle of upgrading later. So, essentially, I just stuffed everything I could find into the box to be done with it. I am a stock broker and I also use the system for my business so the extra hard disk space will come in handy. The tax write off will come in handy too next year. In 1 MB DIMMS though the DDR266 is in the one thousand dollar neighborhood buying it from Dell. I probably paid way too much but I wasn't really shopping around for price and I have gotten excellent service from Dell in the past so I decided to stick with them.
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