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Subject: Re: Man and Machine at Chess (Research questions)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:17:45 02/19/03

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On February 19, 2003 at 07:13:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 19, 2003 at 06:31:34, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2003 at 21:34:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 18, 2003 at 18:16:10, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have made a white paper for a simple question: what is your opinion about
>>>>Crafty against humans in tournatment mode? I had a littler dispute with
>>>>Matthew... I said you never claimed GM status for either Crafty or other
>>>>commercials. Then Matthew said Crafty drew to some unknown (to me!) GM. Does
>>>>that mean you now say that also Crafty "is" GM in long tournament mode?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>First, a clarification.  I have _never_ said that Crafty is a GM-level
>>>player at tournament time controls, namely 40 moves in 2 hours.  I believe
>>>it is clearly a super-GM at blitz (game in 5 minutes).  In fact, it is
>>>most likely a "ultimate-GM" if the time control is really game in 5 minutes,
>>>period.
>>
>>First of all thanks. Amir might respond for the superiority of DJ.
>>
>>Then I want to make a little experiment.
>>
>>Challenge and Refutation:
>>
>>(1) Take GM Roman in a 6 game Blitz with 5' for the game and give Roman 1
>>million US$$ in advance cash. If he wins it's all his money. A draw or loss and
>>he will have to give back the whole money. I bet that Roman will win that
>>against any Crafty available. Period. :)
>
>I think that it will be  but unfortunately we need some sponsors for the
>challange and I do not think that you will get a sponsor that will give
>1.000,000 dollars
>
>If there is a sponsor who can give 1000$ then I suggest the following idea
>
>Every player can play Crafty 6 game blitz match but need to pay 10$ for the
>match.
>In case of winning the player win all the money 1000+10x$ when x is the number
>of matches that crafty played.
>
>In case of losing the player lose 10$.
>
>Note that if there are players who believe they have 30% chance to win the match
>then it means that they can probably win the 1000$ by playing some matches when
>in the first matches they will lose 10$ but in the last match they will earn
>them back together with another 1000$.

When I think about again  the main problem is cheating and I am sure that if
money is involved people may cheat by another program so I think that it is not
a good idea.

It is impossible to prove cheating in the internet when the cheater does not
give a program to play automatically and does not follow always the moves of the
same program and in part of the moves does not choose a computer move.

Uri



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