Author: Brian Richardson
Date: 13:57:17 03/18/03
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On March 18, 2003 at 16:31:58, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On March 18, 2003 at 15:17:30, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On March 18, 2003 at 14:04:56, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On March 17, 2003 at 19:49:30, leonid wrote: >>> >>>>On March 17, 2003 at 19:30:35, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 17, 2003 at 19:17:38, leonid wrote: >>>>>[snip] >>>>>>It is truly sad that this kind of chip (Alpha) went to its end! Still, other >>>>>>fact of migration to the new Itanium chip is very positive. This signify that >>>>>>Intel's 64 chip had certain success and its quantity production is coming in >>>>>>real. Then prices cuts should become tangible very soon. >>>>> >>>>>Intel is in no hurry to get the Itanic floating, and has said so themselves. >>>>> >>>>>Look for AMD to beat them out the door with cost effective volumes by a >>>>>landslide. >>>>> >>>>>Microsoft also prefers the AMD approach, since all the old software will run >>>>>without any modification. >>>> >>>>To be sincere I do know that AMD chip will be more accessible for me to buy but >>>>Intel's chip more attractive to program. Intel's 128 registers do make me dream >>>>without even mentioning its new architecture. Learning completely new Assembler >>>>will be also interesting thing to do. >>> >>>$65000 for a 4 processor 1Ghz I2 box. >>> >>>Or if you buy 1 chip in a small 4 x 4 centimeter paper box it will be 'only >>>$10000' or so. >>> >>>And that price won't get cheaper at all >>> >>>So forget itanium2 unless you have access to a supercomputer that has them. >> >>Pricing information (cheapest I could find): >>http://www.hp.com/workstations/products/itanium/zx6000/summary.html > > >Not bad. Dual for just over $6,000 would be a blast for a certain chess >program. :) I have a dual Itanium2 1GHz system. Perhaps you forgot my earlier post. With the optimizing compilers (tried both Intel and Microsoft), it runs Tinker at about 2GHz Pentium speed (x86 binary code at only 30%). Has anyone been able to reproduce your (Eugene's?) results showing MUCH faster Itanium2 performance? Brian PS No integrated Visual Studio environment or debugger, working with command line interfaces, and so far pretty disappointing.
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