Author: blass uri
Date: 09:49:12 10/07/98
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On October 07, 1998 at 12:10:23, Mark Young wrote: >On October 07, 1998 at 11:58:09, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On October 07, 1998 at 09:49:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 07, 1998 at 05:04:15, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>On October 07, 1998 at 04:31:48, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>On October 07, 1998 at 04:23:59, odell hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I am interested in knowing whatever Rebel 10 will top the swedish rating list. >>>>>>And if Die Hard Sceptics such as Robert Hyatt will concede that Rebel 10 Is >>>>>>indeed Grandmaster Strength? >>>>> >>>>>The question is not whether Rebel or Hiarcs or Fritz or any of the others is of >>>>>GM strength, but of whether they all are. >>>>> >>>>>bruce >>>> >>>>And the answer is: YES. >>> >>> >>>If the answer is "YES", please produce some 40/2hr games where the >>>programs have beaten (or broken even) with GM players. The last four >>>games I personally watched ended up with the GM's ahead 3-1 in points, >>>and the last time I checked my Elo performance rating for that, I get >>>GM-200 for the rating... which is still in the 2400 range, where I've >>>said they are all along... >> >>The GM's were better than average GM's >> >>I know that Junior drew with 3 grandmasters before the match against yudasin >> >>I know that Zungzwang did a good result in a tournament (performance more than >>2500 and I think it played against GM's in the tournament) >> >>I think that we should look at all the games that were played by computers >>against GM's last year in tournament time control. >> >>I am not sure if computers are of GM strength but they are very close >>and maybe part of them are GM's >> >>I am not impressed by the ability of computers >>They do too many mistakes that I will not do so the reason that computers are >>close to be GM's is not that computers are strong but GM's are weak. >> >Many things come to mind when I think about GM's....but Weak is not one of them. > >By the way what is your record playing any of the top 3 or 4 programs at 40/2hr, >from the way it sounds it must be pretty good with all the mistakes they do, >that you do not do. I admit that I am weaker than top chess programs I did not try to play against top programs in 40 moves per 2 hours I am almost sure that I will lose because I will not go to the positions that they are weak but when I look in games between programs I see sometimes that they do mistakes that I will not do. When I use computer programs to help me to analyze my correspondence games I am angry about mistakes that they suggest me to do. Uri
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