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Subject: Re: Will Rebel 10 Be expected to top the Swedish Rating List?

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 10:30:23 10/07/98

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>>If the answer is "YES", please produce some 40/2hr games where the
>>programs have beaten (or broken even) with GM players.  The last four
>>games I personally watched ended up with the GM's ahead 3-1 in points,
>>and the last time I checked my Elo performance rating for that, I get
>>GM-200 for the rating...  which is still in the 2400 range, where I've
>>said they are all along...

>>Not action chess.  Not blitz chess.  But real tournament chess.

>>When I see real evidence this is wrong I'll certainly change my mind.
>>But the evidence has to be doing respectably vs GM players, not trashing
>>some FM/IM players...  There's a difference..  And the games have to be
>>40 moves in two hours or similar time controls...

>Rebel 9 I guess is the best evidence I can think of that todays programs on
>todays computers are better then 2500 elo.(if thats the standard) At Ageon 97
>Rebel 9 should have gone 4-0 Vs the IM's, but did score 3.5-.5. And did score
>1-1 vs the GM's. No the games were not at 40/2 but it was slow enough to be
>called real tournament chess I think.

>Then kick in Rebel 10's score of .5-1.5 playing GM Anand a Super GM at 40/2hr.
>And remember GM Anand has not allowed a draw from any IM player over the past
>few years. If the CCC post I read was correct in this fact.

>I think this shows that todays programs are better then IM's. And by default
>the only thing better then an IM is a GM.

>Ok the evidence is thin....but I took my best shot:)


Add-up Mchess great results against GM's especially at Aegon.

- Ed -




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