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Subject: Re: The position is a DRAW !

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 09:57:00 03/24/03

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On March 24, 2003 at 10:58:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 24, 2003 at 08:37:20, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On March 24, 2003 at 05:19:23, Alexander Kure wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Jorge,
>>>
>>>>I let Fritz 8 played it out under Shoot at only 10 Minutes per side and this was
>>>>the result DRAW!
>>>>
>>>>1... Bxh4 2. gxh4 g3 3. c5+ Kc6 {[%eval -59,18] [%emt 0:00:30]} 4. Kb4 {
>>>>(Nf3) [%eval -72,18] [%emt 0:00:40]} Kd5 {[%eval -75,17] [%emt 0:00:12]} 5. Nf3
>>>>{[%eval -59,18] [%emt 0:00:42]} g2 {[%eval -78,17] [%emt 0:00:24]} 6. c6 {
>>>>(Ng1) [%eval -97,17] [%emt 0:00:35]} Kxc6 {[%eval -97,16] [%emt 0:00:23]} 7.
>>>>Nxe5+ {[%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:00:25]} Kd6 {[%eval -28,18] [%emt 0:00:11]} 8. Nf3
>>>>{[%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:00:22]} Ke6 {(Kd5) [%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:00:29]} 9. Nxd4+
>>>>{[%eval 0,18] [%emt 0:00:22]} Ke5 {[%eval 0,18] [%emt 0:00:16]} 10. Ne2 {
>>>>[%eval 0,18] [%emt 0:00:22]} {Fritz 8:} a6 11. Kc5 a5 12. d4+ Ke4 13. d5 Kf3
>>>>14. Ng1+ Kf2 15. Nh3+ Kg3 16. Ng1 Kf2 {[%eval 0,22]} 1/2-1/2
>>>
>>>
>>>1...Bxh4 2. gxh4 g3 3. c5 is an intersting try.
>>>Your test game shows that Fritz has a problem winning this position. It is not a
>>>proof that this position is a draw ;-)
>>>
>>>Checkout this this line:
>>>
>>>3. c5 Kc6 4. Kb4 g2 5. Nf3 Kc7! and white is in a kind of zugzwang position,
>>>e.g. 6. Kc4 a5 7. Kb3 Kb7! is winning for black.
>>>
>>
>>I don't think so.
>>
>>8. Ng1 Kc6 9. Kc4 a4 10. Kb4 e4 11. Kxa4 exd3 12. Kb3 Kxc5 13. Kb2 draw.
>>
>>Greetings,
>>Peter
>
>1..bxh4!! 2.gxh4,g3 3.c5 is a good try but not helping much IMHO.
>
>I just tried a few moves:
>
>3.. kc6 4.kb4,a5! 5. and so on. black up +4.1

It seems your program is buggy in this position.

White plays 5. Kc4 and it is a draw again.

A sample line:

5. Kc4 g2 6. Nf3 Kc7 7. Kb3 Kb7 8. Ng1 Kc6

Maybe you can show a line that you believe wins for black?

A zugzwang would only work if white had no knightmoves.




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