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Subject: Re: A rating inquiry

Author: Moritz Berger

Date: 05:28:24 10/11/98

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On October 11, 1998 at 07:12:58, blass uri wrote:


>>Finally, my educated guess (as promised ...):
>>Fritz 5 on P120 with 32 MB hash tables - about 2500 SSDF ELO
>
>This rating is based on learning.

No, it isn't entirely based on learning. I played about a hundred games from
Dirk Frickenschmidt's "Play The Game" positions and some from positions of my
own choice, without any books at all. Plus a lot of Nunn-tests, but I don't know
if you will readily discount these results. Additionally, I played dozens of
games at faster time controls on chess.net and ICC.

Finally trying to appease you, I should mention that I built a tree from about
1000 Anand games taken from CB Mega Database '98 and Fritz still scored
EXTREMELY well against all kind of opponents (yes, also right from the start of
each "match" :-)). Just try it yourself: Play an engine match with "Anand" book
for Fritz5 and "PowerBook" for Fritz5. "Anand" will not perform much worse...

I think you're putting to much emphasis on books and learning. The Fritz 5
engine itself is really strong and can compensate for almost every "book
deficit". Even using the old Fritz3 or Fritz4 .fbk books without any learning
(<200KB each) or converting books from Rebel, Genius or Chessmaster to Fritz
trees will produce decent results for Fritz. The tree offers more in terms of
education, statistics and learning, but if you're not willing to give it MBs on
your HD, that's also a reasonable choice.


Moritz

P.S.: Since Fritz doesn't do "inclusive learning", i.e. it doesn't learn new
moves but just changes weights after each game, I recommend to "import" (not
merely learn) games into the book after you played against strong opponents at
significant time controls (i.e. at time controls where you will be using the
book in the future). This helps Fritz to build its own book, e.g. starting from
the aforementioned Anand (or Fischer or Kasparov or Capablanca...) repertoire.

No, I didn't do this in my computer-computer matches.
Yes, I recommend doing this if you start with a very small book.



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