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Subject: Re: AMD or Pentium4?

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 23:40:26 04/10/03

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On April 10, 2003 at 23:25:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 10, 2003 at 20:45:41, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On April 10, 2003 at 11:34:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not knocking your box at all, as I said previously you have driven it to the
>>>lowest latency I have ever seen.  But for every success story, there are a
>>>thousand
>>>horror stories.  I've seen too many of 'em here.  "It works fine on all the
>>>normal
>>>test programs but I am getting a program crash on my real application.  When I
>>>turn the clock back down, it works fine."
>>>
>>>That's not the way to spend time debugging...
>>
>>What in the world is your point?
>
>That overclocking leads to bugs that are very difficult to find.  Because
>they don't show up on _other_ machines.
>
>Was that too hard to understand?

Yes. There are a lot of bugs that are very difficult to find that are caused by
many different things. Cosmic rays, electromigration, power surges/spikes,
whatever. The designs of the chips in question have known bugs and there's no
reason to think they don't have unknown bugs.

If you want a computer where the hardware always works right, then you want a
computer that has more redundancy than a PC.

If you want a computer that has no perceptible problems, then you can use a PC,
and yes, even an overclocked PC.

-Tom



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