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Subject: Re: Hmm . . . is Junior5 not good enough??

Author: Mark Young

Date: 09:05:07 10/18/98

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On October 18, 1998 at 08:28:12, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On October 18, 1998 at 04:40:54, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On October 17, 1998 at 23:09:16, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>I like computer test. I just wish we could stop testing the top of the line
>>>programs Vs CST. Unless the point of this is to gauge which program is best by
>>>how badly the beat CST.
>>>>Enrique
>>
>>Maybe it is to demonstrate that Thorsten is wrong. He ALWAYS claims that CST is
>>AS STRONG as the top commercial programs. So nothing to say against games
>>between CST and the top.
>
>It's not so much showing that Thorsten is wrong as being irritated by so many
>ringing bells every time CST wins a game and so much silence when it loses,
>presenting it as if it were an eater of giants. I still remember the first
>results posted here, where CST supposedly defeated Nimzo 98 2-0 and Fritz 5 also
>by 2-0. Then I did the same as now with these results:
>
>CST-Nimzo98    3.5-15.5 (+2 -14  =3)
>CST-Fritz 5    1.5-8.5  (+0  -7  =3)
>CST-Junior 5   1.5-7.5  (+0  -6  =3)
>
>CST scored a total of 17.1%, or -263 Elo, all games at 40/40.
>
>Interesting as CST may be, it is far from being capable of competing on equal
>basis with some much stronger programs. One thing is to see CST as a fun program
>and an interesting project, and a very different one to present it as the
>achievement it is not.
>
I know, I just don't find CST at all interesting, as project or anyting else.
I can setup CM6000 to play close to the same style as CST, and it will play as
unsound a moves as CST. I just don't call it a project or interesting or fun.

>Enrique



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