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Subject: Re: Is there a Fischer Random Rating list , for Human and for programs?

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 14:50:06 05/30/03

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On May 30, 2003 at 17:32:07, Mike S. wrote:

>On May 30, 2003 at 16:52:24, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>
>P.S. I think there are some engines which play "wild 2" on ICC. I'm not 100%
>sure though and/or which engines do this. AFAIK wild 2 this is Shuffle (only;
>maybe incl. standard castling?), but it could be interesting for you. If I'm not
>wrong, there should be thousands of games to examine related to the opening
>abilites topic, certainly incl. some from standard times 15+ minutes.
>
>http://www.chessclub.com/

Every WinBoard engine that supports the protocol properly can automatically play
wild 2 and wild 3, too. They are not extremely popular but I agree it should be
able to find enough engine games with them.

The difference between those two variants is that one of them doesn't allow
bishops on same colour which adresses one of Reinhard's concerns I agree to.

When it is about castling rights I have little to add to Uri's posts - my
impression is exactly the same, they are illogical and unnatural. A most easy
extension would be to say that castling is only allowed in case king and rook
are on their original squares btw, in case you are obsessed with castling I
would create additional rules as suggested by Uri and can imagine no chessplayer
to guess the rather artifial FRC castling rules.

What to expect from engines in one of these variants? ( Or FRC - does anyone
really expect a big change from some different castling rights ;) ?) - I have
posted Rogozenko's report about his match against Chess Tiger today that gave
details and want to point to game 6 of the match again.

It's OK that there are people who love the FRC variant but I don't understand
the religious style of the campaign at all.

Peter



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