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Subject: Re: rebel10 bug?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:33:27 10/20/98

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On October 20, 1998 at 08:20:53, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:

>On October 20, 1998 at 08:08:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>Quite easy.  With alpha/beta the only "order" we have is (1) best move and
>>(2) rest of moves.  There is no "order" to the moves other than one move is
>>better than all the rest.  No idea how much better, no idea where the other
>>moves rank with respect to each other...
>
>In order to avoid wide-spread confusion, I would like to add that Bob's above
>statement implicitly assumes "alpha-beta" to mean "PVS/NegaScout" as employed
>by most chess programs.
>
>Pure alpha-beta without null-window searches and eager resolution of any
>fail-high/fail-low situations can of course calculate accurate search scores
>of all moves. But it would be horribly inefficient as compared to PVS (yet
>still much better than naive minimax).
>
>=Ernst=


No "pure" alpha/beta can do this.  But if, at the root, you simply reset
alpha/beta after each root move, you get a score whether it be from a PVS
search a negascout search or a traditional alpha beta (I don't see what null-
move has to do with this issue at all).

But the math is gross...  and you will lose 3-4 plies probably...



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