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Subject: Crafty smoking everything at opteron 64 bits

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:47:29 06/29/03

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On June 28, 2003 at 21:35:42, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On June 28, 2003 at 19:12:16, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>Elsewhere in this thread, someone asserted that for chess, the Opteron "not much
>>faster" Mhz per Mhz as an Athlon XP. I thought this didn't seem right, but
>>looking at the crafty sections of SPECint2000 at
>>http://www.aceshardware.com/SPECmine/ makes it look like a fair (?) assessment.
>
>Did you look at the same numbers as I did?  1800MHz Opteron performs about where
>you'd expect to see a 2100MHz Athlon for Crafty, according to SPEC numbers.  So,
>Opteron is performing some 16% better per MHz than the Athlon here.

Then you're taking a very bad look at specint.

Crafty 64 bits using the GCC compiler (which for sure ain't fastest possible
code yet) :

1.8Ghz opteron 64 bits : 1562 score (more is better)
2.2Ghz K7      32 bits : 1324 score
3.06Ghz Xeon   32 bits : 1192 score

So i see it perform like a
  1562/1324 * 2.2 = 2.6Ghz K7 (assuming K7 scales well,
  which it doesn't do as well as the opteron)

Or when compared to a P4-Xeon:
  1562/1192 * 3.06 = 4.0Ghz P4-Xeon (and that one will not scale well for sure,
  so it will be more like a 4.2Ghz P4-Xeon which equals a single 1.8Ghz opteron

Hyatt has been crying for a 64 bits processor for 10 years now. Why hasn't he
bought a dual opteron yet? It's not more expensive than a dual Xeon!

And the coming years the P4-Xeon won't be clocked to 4Ghz soon... ...not in 0.09
technology either.

References:

opteron 1.8Ghz:
http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030421-02093.html

XP k7 2.2Ghz:
http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030505-02154.html

Xeon P4 3.06Ghz: (note that this one is considerably faster than P4 with HT)
http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030407-02060.html



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