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Subject: Re: Crafty smoking everything at opteron 64 bits

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:36:58 06/29/03

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On June 29, 2003 at 17:47:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 28, 2003 at 21:35:42, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On June 28, 2003 at 19:12:16, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>Elsewhere in this thread, someone asserted that for chess, the Opteron "not much
>>>faster" Mhz per Mhz as an Athlon XP. I thought this didn't seem right, but
>>>looking at the crafty sections of SPECint2000 at
>>>http://www.aceshardware.com/SPECmine/ makes it look like a fair (?) assessment.
>>
>>Did you look at the same numbers as I did?  1800MHz Opteron performs about where
>>you'd expect to see a 2100MHz Athlon for Crafty, according to SPEC numbers.  So,
>>Opteron is performing some 16% better per MHz than the Athlon here.
>
>Then you're taking a very bad look at specint.
>
>Crafty 64 bits using the GCC compiler (which for sure ain't fastest possible
>code yet) :
>
>1.8Ghz opteron 64 bits : 1562 score (more is better)
>2.2Ghz K7      32 bits : 1324 score
>3.06Ghz Xeon   32 bits : 1192 score
>
>So i see it perform like a
>  1562/1324 * 2.2 = 2.6Ghz K7 (assuming K7 scales well,
>  which it doesn't do as well as the opteron)
>
>Or when compared to a P4-Xeon:
>  1562/1192 * 3.06 = 4.0Ghz P4-Xeon (and that one will not scale well for sure,
>  so it will be more like a 4.2Ghz P4-Xeon which equals a single 1.8Ghz opteron
>
>Hyatt has been crying for a 64 bits processor for 10 years now. Why hasn't he
>bought a dual opteron yet? It's not more expensive than a dual Xeon!

I haven't been "crying" for anything at all.  And, in fact, I've been running
on a 64 bit processor since 1980 when Cray Blitz was "born".

Better check your details.

BTW I've _also_ been running on alphas for quite a while.  I just mothballed
my 21164 box here in fact.  When I bought my dual xeon there were no dual
opterons around...  I haven't personally seen one yet.


>
>And the coming years the P4-Xeon won't be clocked to 4Ghz soon... ...not in 0.09
>technology either.
>
>References:
>
>opteron 1.8Ghz:
>http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030421-02093.html
>
>XP k7 2.2Ghz:
>http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030505-02154.html
>
>Xeon P4 3.06Ghz: (note that this one is considerably faster than P4 with HT)
>http://www.specbench.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2003q2/cpu2000-20030407-02060.html



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