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Subject: Re: Opteron vs. XP

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 18:13:21 06/30/03

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On June 30, 2003 at 21:11:06, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On June 30, 2003 at 20:51:58, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On June 29, 2003 at 16:57:02, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On June 29, 2003 at 16:08:02, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Measuring specint for a new chip using a compiler that in effect cripples it, is
>>>>>not only incompetent, it's misleading, IMO.
>>>>
>>>>If it's incompetent to use a compiler that makes faster binaries than another
>>>>compiler, then I think you can call everyone incompetent.
>>>
>>>Well yes, it is.
>>>
>>>If Carl Lewis has a broken leg, we should postpone the race until he is back in
>>>shape, anything else will just be a race with a broken leg.
>>>
>>>It is however amazing how fast the chip is running, even with it being on
>>>crutches.
>>>
>>>-S.
>>
>>It is not on crutches. The x86-64 ISA is more or less the same as the x86-32
>>ISA.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>Seeing is believing.
>
>If I'm not mistaken the specint uses Crafty as an integer benchmark, obviously
>this is 64-bit *integer*, hence huge difference between 332 abd 64 bit, hence
>the whole thing is more or less rediculous.
>
>-S.

What would you suggest? That AMD retract its SPEC submissions and ask vendors
not to make SPEC submissions until performance of 64-bit binaries on the Opteron
is to your liking? Sure. That'll boost sales.

-Tom



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