Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Opteron vs. XP

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 18:16:35 06/30/03

Go up one level in this thread


On June 30, 2003 at 21:13:21, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On June 30, 2003 at 21:11:06, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>On June 30, 2003 at 20:51:58, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On June 29, 2003 at 16:57:02, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 29, 2003 at 16:08:02, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Measuring specint for a new chip using a compiler that in effect cripples it, is
>>>>>>not only incompetent, it's misleading, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>>If it's incompetent to use a compiler that makes faster binaries than another
>>>>>compiler, then I think you can call everyone incompetent.
>>>>
>>>>Well yes, it is.
>>>>
>>>>If Carl Lewis has a broken leg, we should postpone the race until he is back in
>>>>shape, anything else will just be a race with a broken leg.
>>>>
>>>>It is however amazing how fast the chip is running, even with it being on
>>>>crutches.
>>>>
>>>>-S.
>>>
>>>It is not on crutches. The x86-64 ISA is more or less the same as the x86-32
>>>ISA.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>
>>Seeing is believing.
>>
>>If I'm not mistaken the specint uses Crafty as an integer benchmark, obviously
>>this is 64-bit *integer*, hence huge difference between 332 abd 64 bit, hence
>>the whole thing is more or less rediculous.
>>
>>-S.
>
>What would you suggest? That AMD retract its SPEC submissions and ask vendors
>not to make SPEC submissions until performance of 64-bit binaries on the Opteron
>is to your liking? Sure. That'll boost sales.

Ah I see, you think running 32 bit binaries is testing a 64 bit chip, hurray for
progress - why did AMD even bother?

-S.


>-Tom



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.