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Subject: Re: Why I rarely visit the CCC

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 04:42:32 07/03/03

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On July 03, 2003 at 01:11:18, Chris Kantack wrote:

>A few days ago I posted a few quick comments on my opinion of the Deep Sjeng
>chess program.  I've been really disappointed with the program and was
>interested in getting other opinions.

Chris your few quick comments were rather "vicious" and lacked "civility" in
their own right (surprisingly to me - I held you in higher regard prior to that
post).  To summarize your post:

1.  You got a free engine to evaluate -- most of us do not get free commerical
engines.
2, You said it "sucks big time" -- did you ever go back to the author with your
feedback prior to posting here  - is that civilized?

CP by the way has the best user support of any commercial engine by the way.
You catch a bug and you get feedback and fixes -- sometimes within hours - try
that with Chessbase.  To say it "sucks big time" is expected from a troll - not
somebody who  holds themselves out to be  a  "revieiwer".  BTW, The word "sucks"
,although not a curse word, is offensive to many people and is not one normally
used unless the author is purposely trying to be "vicious" and "offensive".  I
purposely used it in my reply to you to show  the impact it has the reader.
Obviously you did not like it - which was my point - it's not really a word to
use --period.

I think if your original post was little more civilized and stuck to the facts,
it would have been better recieved.  You did not really explain why you thought
it "sucks" - other than stating all the things it was lacking in comparision to
CM6K.  The CM series - almost always have more goodies that many people -
espeically beginners (like yourself) enjoy and it almost always a lot different
that other chess programs.  Richard Pilj put it best ,"Sounds like a vegetarian
reviewing a grill restaurant. " . In  hindsight your were the wrong person to
send DS 1.5 to review.  Once you realized that, you should have politely
returned the software to CP and told them that you may be the wrong person to
perform a review and kept your comments to yourself.  That would been the
civilized thing to do.

Best,

Michael



>I knew this message forum had a lot of
>"hard core" chess hackers.  A posting here, I knew would give me some feedback
>from those with a very different point-of-view than my own.
>
>Indeed, a few of you had extremely good postings which I found most informative
>and useful.
>
>Most of the feedback was downright vicious.  Unfortunately a characteristic I
>see too often in Computer Chess Club (CCC)postings.
>
<somethings snipped>
> If only more of its posters could show a little civility.....
>
>
>Chris Kantack
>http://home.earthlink.net/~kantack/lcdchess/home.htm



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